THE CONSPIRACY BEHIND WLAD'S POOR last night's PERFORMANCE

[STEELHEAD]

I know it's a problem.. I'm one of those people that always assume that things don't just happen, there needs to be a reason....

Here is my explanation for Wlad's last night's outing.

We all know Wlad wants to unify the belts, with that said, that only leaves Chagaev as a the next step. (Brother Vitali is in line for the WBC and Wlad wants no part of it)

Chagaev is a similar in size to Ibragimov, also a Southpaw.. now think about it, if Wlad was to brutally dismantle Sultan, would Chagaev want any part of Wlad? I think not.. he will be trying to hold on to his dear belt harder than he does now and for as long as he can.

I think Wlad's better chances to unify with the WBA if Valuev wins the rematch.


So Wlad had to look scared, he had to look vulnerable, and he had to put his offence arsenal on hold and to look beatable. All that not to scare potential future match ups.

Thoughts?

Have I lost my mind by taking it too deep?

i dont know. to think that manny and wlad had planned to look scared. think you taking to many libertys. manny was going on and on about a knockout.

wlad fought scared of being hit because he was. wow. and he could never really pull the trigger with the uppercuts and right hand power.
sort of like a guy suffering from ring rust from only fighting once every couple years.
ho hum so much for the lackey hvwt division.
well at least if bozo the clown peters gets by oleg we could see some fireworks in the circus ring against wlad.
had to play chagaev/valuev for friends after this fight.
a lot of physical similarities between the fights. not that valuev has as much class as wlad but it was neet watching ruslan figure out in the ring how to get to valuev. but think a healthy chagaev would of faired a lot better against klit. but now with chagaev having liver problems , the fatigue and effects of such a disease has me writting him off now. especially after his last outing.he's just along for the ride now and see him on the fringe.

peter the clown is built like a buick. and can see him having the best chance at spooking the mentaly weak wlad .

[neils7147933]

I know it's a problem.. I'm one of those people that always assume that things don't just happen, there needs to be a reason....

Here is my explanation for Wlad's last night's outing.

We all know Wlad wants to unify the belts, with that said, that only leaves Chagaev as a the next step. (Brother Vitali is in line for the WBC and Wlad wants no part of it)

Chagaev is a similar in size to Ibragimov, also a Southpaw.. now think about it, if Wlad was to brutally dismantle Sultan, would Chagaev want any part of Wlad? I think not.. he will be trying to hold on to his dear belt harder than he does now and for as long as he can.

I think Wlad's better chances to unify with the WBA if Valuev wins the rematch.


So Wlad had to look scared, he had to look vulnerable, and he had to put his offence arsenal on hold and to look beatable. All that not to scare potential future match ups.

Thoughts?

Have I lot my mind by taking it too deep?

Just like in the Brewster fight, Wlad was poisoned by the bigots.

(smilie)

[Easy-E]

See, I'm sorry that people would get this impression..

What I see in Wladimir is a great athlete with ability, speed, power.. Everything a top fighter needs. His mental stuff is the problem.

Physically he's a fantastic specimen. When he was throwing and going after Sultan he was running right over him - and Sultan Ibragimov is an excellent heavyweight despite how easy Klitchsko made it look.

It's still a great win for a damn good heavyweight.

I would not call Wlad's victory a "great win" by any stretch of the imagination.

[Easy-E]

wow its kind of astonishing how far people will stretch to see the good in a fighter they love.... its hard to separate emotions from facts but the truth is that wlad is not as good as many here WANT to believe. Thats not hating on the guy, its just saying it how it is

A little ironic that this post is coming from "Duran is God."

[Addison]

I would not call Wlad's victory a "great win" by any stretch of the imagination.

Winning great and a great win are not the same thing.

Any win over the single best opposition in the division is great.

[HARRY KNUCKLES]

i dont know. to think that manny and wlad had planned to look scared. think you taking to many libertys. manny was going on and on about a knockout.

wlad fought scared of being hit because he was. wow. and he could never really pull the trigger with the uppercuts and right hand power.
sort of like a guy suffering from ring rust from only fighting once every couple years.
ho hum so much for the lackey hvwt division.
well at least if bozo the clown peters gets by oleg we could see some fireworks in the circus ring against wlad.
had to play chagaev/valuev for friends after this fight.
a lot of physical similarities between the fights. not that valuev has as much class as wlad but it was neet watching ruslan figure out in the ring how to get to valuev. but think a healthy chagaev would of faired a lot better against klit. but now with chagaev having liver problems , the fatigue and effects of such a disease has me writting him off now. especially after his last outing.he's just along for the ride now and see him on the fringe.

peter the clown is built like a buick. and can see him having the best chance at spooking the mentaly weak wlad .

IF peter gets past maskaev! in peter's last fight he looks like he reverted back to his club fighter ways. altho maskaev hasnt fought in a year and a half..

[j]

i didn't see a scared wladimir. i saw a very relaxed wladimir who intended to coast.

why?


well, i have a theory. remember before the fight, the talk about the rivalry between russian and ukrainians?

watch any of the extra coverage that is on youtube about this particular rivalry.

it might seem very reasonable that both wanted to make sure nobody lost "face".

think about it, and the connections klitschko has with both ukrainians and russians.

either way, he murders his next opponent. manny did not like that wk chose to let sultan off that easy. that's why, i don't see it as far out that there could be something more we don't know about.

[Malicious]

I think Wlad and Vitali both have been cautious fighters. Almost every fight I've seen against elite comp. they come out pawing the jab, trying not to make mistakes. I don't think not wanting to scare away other belt holders is the reason although it very well may be. IMO Wlad thinks his beard isn't the best and fights very cautious because he knows he can use his superior reach and outpoint most guys.

[beez721]

wow its kind of astonishing how far people will stretch to see the good in a fighter they love.... its hard to separate emotions from facts but the truth is that wlad is not as good as many here WANT to believe. Thats not hating on the guy, its just saying it how it is

well,,,he did just beat an undefeated olympic silver medalist (southpaw no less) easily with one hand. I'd say he must be pretty damn good. he can look horrible and still dominate a fight

[beez721]

Ibragimov was knocked down by Ray Austin and Friday Ahunanya, slightly stunned by Holyfield.

Chagaev took punches from Virchis and Valuev without getting hurt.

sultan never looked shook to me at all against holyfield. I never saw the friday fight so cant comment on that and sultan was badly out of shape against austin as he took the fight on short notice and was a career high 232 lbs. I'd say he has a pretty damn good chin. fwiw I heard chageav was hurt late in the virchis fight. I dont know who's chin is better but both guys seem to take good shots