Jones-Taylor Early Predictions

[slicksouthpaw16]

Roy may be past his prime but, he still has enough left to beat taylor. I believe his weak chin was caused by his 20 pound of muscle weight loss. I went through the same **** for wrestling I dropped from 152 to 130 for wrestling. That was pretty hard to do considering that I'm 6'2". When was the last time he came out blasting, he's not that type of fighter.

He came out blasting in the second Tarver fight. He was (like i said) showing flashes of his prime, then the younger and stronger fighter caught up with him and knocked him out.

Its just laughable how people look at the Trinidad fight and act like Roy would look that good against the top younger fighters. He looked good against a green and blown up Hanshaw, and Trinidad that was out boxed badly in last fight (which was 2 years ago) blown up in weight, past his prime, and ring rusty. Please, Taylor is too young and would take advantage of Roy's slowed reflexis, laying on the ropes, and his inactivity. Taylor stops him and quickly.

[THE REED]

Well put bro, well put.

Why thank you.. its been awhile since I got that in depth on a thread..

hey at least I do my best to try and explain why i think what I think.. you know?

[Crazylegs77]

I got Jones outsmarting a tense,tired,frustrated Taylor. Possible KO.

[Darkstar]

Why wont jones fight somebody his own size? Shouldnt he be looking at the very least a supermiddle/light heavy? I like Taylor but the odds are against him here, another safe fight for jones.

[Scott9945]

Why thank you.. its been awhile since I got that in depth on a thread..

hey at least I do my best to try and explain why i think what I think.. you know?

You did well. While I'll probably pick Taylor, he has enough flaws that could give Roy a big look in this fight. Roy really wants this guy, and one thing Jones isn't is ******. He definitely sees something he likes here. The big question is whether his 39 y/o body will accomodate him.

[THE REED]

Why wont jones fight somebody his own size? Shouldnt he be looking at the very least a supermiddle/light heavy? I like Taylor but the odds are against him here, another safe fight for jones.

Why do yu think jermain is moving up? Have you been paying attention to anything? He is a TRUE Supermiddleweight, who shrinks down to Middleweight to get the advantage... well he cant make the weight anymore...

And Roy fought middle to Heavy.. hes a true SMW in my opinion... he def. lost all that muscle he had when he went to HW... I dont think its this magical "Safe" fight for jones... Jermaine CAN hurt Roy, and BAD..

[Scott9945]

Why do yu think jermain is moving up? Have you been paying attention to anything? He is a TRUE Supermiddleweight, who shrinks down to Middleweight to get the advantage... well he cant make the weight anymore...

And Roy fought middle to Heavy.. hes a true SMW in my opinion... he def. lost all that muscle he had when he went to HW... I dont think its this magical "Safe" fight for jones... Jermaine CAN hurt Roy, and BAD..

Taylor isn't a former welterweight like Trinidad. He is every bit as big as Roy and anyone using the "smaller opponent" angle has no validity.

[slicksouthpaw16]

ree****yaluss;3160220]Obviously the moving back on the ropes part is also bad for Roy, he cant be doing any of that as Jermaine does have a hell of a punch. Im curious to see what Roys view is gonna be on Taylor as far as... who does Roy think is the bigger guy... In roys mind hes comin from, HW, and jermaines comin from MW... so Roy might want to try and walk Taylor down like he did Trinidad...I personally think Jermaine is the bigger guy... but.. Jermaine does kinda crouch down a lot when he fights, and so far Roys been doin that WWinky style, and he kinda stands up straighter... He looked a lot taller than Tito, and there the same height.. So Roy could end up looking the bigger man...

That a guranteed knockout loss if he tries to back Taylor up and walk him down. Taylor is not Trinidad, he can fight going backward well and does not need his feet to be planted in order to punch. He did that to Trinidad because again, Trinidad was smaller and had no power at that weight, on top of the other disadvantages he had. Taylor is also bigger than Roy. He is 6'1 and and Roy is only 5'10. Taylor also has the bigger frame. Roy coming down from heavyweight will men nothing, on fight night, Taylor will be bigger because they will weigh the same and Jermain is naturally bigger anyway.

I personally dont feel hes that washed up... Lets not forget.. Roy got knockd out.. it WAS 4 years ago.. since then hes had 3 fights, each one being tougher than the last... hes JUST as active as Taylor... Roy fought in July and January.. Taylor fought in September and February... Roys gone through a good 24 rounds... Taylor got KOed in September, and just Went through a hellacious training camp, and a Hellacious second fight... on top of that... Jermaine is now gonna move UP in to a bigger weight class.. and Roys gona move down... This will do two things... Get Roy in better shape, and take power away from Jermaine... Its more even than you think it is...

Just look at who his comebacks was against. Ajamu? A no name fighter who actually gave Roy fits in the early rounds. Hanshaw? a green showbox fighter in which Roy made him come up in weight to fight him. Trinidad? Out for 2 years, out boxed badly in his last fight, inactive for 2 years, blown up in weight and had no power in that weight class. Jermain is in his prime and has the tools to beat Jones at this stage. Believe it or not, when Jermain loss to Pavlik the second time, he looked the best he has ever looked. Why? Because he kept his hands up, stayed off of the ropes. threw straight punches and was better technically polished. Plus, Taylor is alot better than Glen Johnson and Antonio Tarver and even if he makes Taylor come up in weight, Taylor still has the frame of a light heavyweight so the decrease in power will not be much, if any.

Ill go with Roy UD... based on VERY clean VISIBLE punching, especially from Angles... and Jermaine finding it difficult to get past Roys stance and counter punching abilities.. But its not a walk in the park either.. he better get UP for Jermaine...

Not only will Taylor's punches be a lot harder than Trinidad's, but Taylor is also buiser than Trinidad and can fight for the full 12. Roy has a habit of laying on the ropes and Trinidad got through with some great body shots, imagine what a bigger, stronger, faster (than Trinidad) and with more stamina do? Im not trying to put Roy down here, but him matching well against any of the young fighters is something that i dont see happening.

[Darkstar]

What?!?
Jermain Taylor has spent his entire career at 160, of course he has to drop weight but who doesnt? He could have weighed in at 166 to fight Pavlik but didnt even need to, came in at a career high of only 164. Jones on the other hand has spent most of his Career at 168 and 175 even going to heavyweight once. Theirs no question who is the bigger fighter.

[Scott9945]

What?!?
Jermain Taylor has spent his entire career at 160, of course he has to drop weight but who doesnt? He could have weighed in at 166 to fight Pavlik but didnt even need to, came in at a career high of only 164. Jones on the other hand has spent most of his Career at 168 and 175 even going to heavyweight once. Theirs no question who is the bigger fighter.

Taylor was a huge middleweight, several inches taller than Roy. If he fights Jones, look for him to enter the ring at a higher weight than Roy on fight night. Taylor is still only 29 and will likely have to fight at lightheavyweight in a few years.