Originally posted by gavinz1970
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80's Heavyweights where they that bad?
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Originally posted by TheManchine View PostThey would be ranked about the same as they were back in the 80's. Average at best, like Ray Austin, Luan Krasniqi, Peter Okhello, Matt Skelton and such.
Holmes fought lots of average opposition in between his bigger fights.
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well at least they fought with some technique,and were loose.
Unlike today's fighters..
look at golata, vitali,valuev,oleg maskaev..
have u seen the way these fighters throw a punch??
they have absolutely no technique whatsoever..
what about the way vitali throws an uppercut, its an insult.
wana see a good uppercut? have a look at buster douglas.
wana see a good jab,take a look at douglas or holmes.
today's hw's have no technique.
wlad looks a bit robotic to me too.
He is a bit stiff.
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Originally posted by Tunney View PostI just watched some of Tyson's big fights and his opponents looked very bad. Trevor Berbick looked worse than any of the top 10 today, and yet he had a title. Holmes was a great fighter, but was well past his best by that time.
There was only one good heavyweight from 1986 to 1989 - Mike Tyson. The rest were really not very good. Wlad would KO all of them.
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Originally posted by tills9191 View Postwell at least they fought with some technique,and were loose.
Unlike today's fighters..
look at golata, vitali,valuev,oleg maskaev..
have u seen the way these fighters throw a punch??
they have absolutely no technique whatsoever..
what about the way vitali throws an uppercut, its an insult.
wana see a good uppercut? have a look at buster douglas.
wana see a good jab,take a look at douglas or holmes.
today's hw's have no technique.
wlad looks a bit robotic to me too.
He is a bit stiff.
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Most of those 80s guys would fit right in today...some like Michael Dokes and Tim Witherspoon would be 'fringe' champions,just like they were in their heyday.
In fact,Dokes knocks out Wlad,and probably Witherspoon cuts him up also...before you laugh,both were better fighters than the golfer,Sanders.
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A lof of them were underachievers who squandered too much talent due to laziness and drugs (Tubbs, Dokes, Thomas, Tucker). Ruddock (late 80s, early 90s) was another physically gifted guy who had the work ethic, but was a ****** fighter.
Spoon was pretty good though, terrible performance in the Smith rematch aside. I actually thought he narrowly beat Holmes in their fight. He had pretty solid skills, a big right hand, and a crafty defense, hiding behind his glove and parrying shots well.
Unfortunately he was more or less blackballed after getting into Don King's ****house.
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Originally posted by Brother Blues View PostMost of those 80s guys would fit right in today...some like Michael Dokes and Tim Witherspoon would be 'fringe' champions,just like they were in their heyday.
In fact,Dokes knocks out Wlad,and probably Witherspoon cuts him up also...before you laugh,both were better fighters than the golfer,Sanders.
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They were a talented group, but drugs, lack of realization of potential(especially in Page's case), and Don King ruined what should have been a great time for the heavyweight division.
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