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  • ßringer
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    #21
    Originally posted by boxingknight
    You obviously didn't read articles posted on here. Loew, pavliks trainer has talked alot of **** about Calzaghe. So, if Loew speaks for Pavlik then Pavlik should man up and stop being a little *****, and Calzaghe did invite Pavlik to the kessler fight after Loew made negative comments about calzaghe being a paperweight champion.
    All Jack Loew said was that if they fought Kelly would knock Joe out. I don't take that as "**** talking", I take that as a trainer backing their man. I'd epect to hear the same **** from Enzo Calzaghe about Joe beating Kelly.

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      #22
      Originally posted by boxingknight
      You obviously didn't read articles posted on here. Loew, pavliks trainer has talked alot of **** about Calzaghe. So, if Loew speaks for Pavlik then Pavlik should man up and stop being a little *****, and Calzaghe did invite Pavlik to the kessler fight after Loew made negative comments about calzaghe being a paperweight champion.
      Well he would have went to the fight but he had prior obligations in town then...

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        #23
        Originally posted by The_Bringer
        One or two points either way could be argued but a Taylor victory cannot. He didn't work enough.

        Jermain's fans said the same **** about Hopkins when Hopkins lost the first Taylor fight by not working enough. Stating that Hopkins started late, fought in spurts, etc...

        Jermain did the same exact thing against Pavlik tonight, only with sharper punching.

        You can't win a fight by fighting in spurts, and you most certainly can't beat Kelly Pavlik that way. Not against a guy who works his ass off for 36 minutes every fight.
        I felt that while Pavlik had a higher work rate he was also missing a lot of punches or having them blocked. If you notice that they have been blocked then you have a different outlook on the fight but if you think they have connected then it gives the illusion of a greater performance.

        I don't think fights like that can be called a robbery but I still find 117-111 a ludicrous score.

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          #24
          Originally posted by The_Bringer
          ....In terms of bitching and moaning after Jermain loses.

          After the first Pavlik fight Kelly was labelled "one dimensional" and some even went so far as to cal him "lucky" saying the fight should've been stopped in the second round, and that Taylor should've won it then.

          Then they go on and on for 5 months about how Jermain Taylor is a better boxer and more athletically gifted than Pavlik and how in a "real" boxing match, Taylor would box circles around the one dimensional "Ghost".

          Well Kelly outboxed Jermain tonight, constantly beating him to the punch, working harder, outjabbing him and ultimately closing the show impressively.

          Now all of a sudden this is a "robbery" too.

          Face it guys, Jermain has been spoonfed his entire career and Kelly Pavlik has his number. Whether is an all out war, or a technical boxing chess match, Kelly is just better than Jermain, get over it.

          I think it has something to do with Kelly's skin tone to be honest. Because before Pavlik took his title, nobody on the planet liked Jermain Taylor and thought he was "pulling a Hopkins" by beating on smaller men like Ouma and Spinks. Not to mention his gift decision against Wright, a fight that most experts agree Wright won.

          Nobody cries as hard as Jermain Taylor after a loss, with only the exception of his "fans". (AKA people who just hate Kelly Pavlik)
          i dont know what the hell u were watching fella ,halfway through the fight i posted on the round by round and u had made a post saying i hope they dont try adnd steal i from Pavlik do u remember, at that point Pavlik was getting his head boxed off so god knows what u were watching

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          • MnTwins24
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            #25
            God it seems everyone is ducking calzaghe according to his fans. He's lucky he's been fighting in Europe his whole career.

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              #26
              Originally posted by Terrible...
              i dont know what the hell u were watching fella ,halfway through the fight i posted on the round by round and u had made a post saying i hope they dont try adnd steal i from Pavlik do u remember, at that point Pavlik was getting his head boxed off so god knows what u were watching
              All I did was state that if it went to the cards, I expected it to favor Taylor, as is so often the case in Jermain's Career. (See both Hopkins fights, the Wright fight, and some would even say the Spinks fight)

              It just seems than anytime a fight goes to the card Jermain is always the winner, couple that with the insane scoring of their first fight (I had Taylor ahead by 1 point at the time of the KO, 2 would've been fine also) but not the large gaps that the judges had, with Pavlik winning only 1 round.

              In the first fight Kelly had to have won at least 3, the first, the third and the fifth.

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              • MELLY-MEL...
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                #27
                Originally posted by kforbs126
                Well he would have went to the fight but he had prior obligations in town then...
                don't listen to that *******. he is a troll!

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by MnTwins24
                  God it seems everyone is ducking calzaghe according to his fans. He's lucky he's been fighting in Europe his whole career.
                  Lucky how exactly?

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by The_Bringer
                    ....In terms of bitching and moaning after Jermain loses.

                    After the first Pavlik fight Kelly was labelled "one dimensional" and some even went so far as to cal him "lucky" saying the fight should've been stopped in the second round, and that Taylor should've won it then.

                    Then they go on and on for 5 months about how Jermain Taylor is a better boxer and more athletically gifted than Pavlik and how in a "real" boxing match, Taylor would box circles around the one dimensional "Ghost".

                    Well Kelly outboxed Jermain tonight, constantly beating him to the punch, working harder, outjabbing him and ultimately closing the show impressively.

                    Now all of a sudden this is a "robbery" too.

                    Face it guys, Jermain has been spoonfed his entire career and Kelly Pavlik has his number. Whether is an all out war, or a technical boxing chess match, Kelly is just better than Jermain, get over it.

                    I think it has something to do with Kelly's skin tone to be honest. Because before Pavlik took his title, nobody on the planet liked Jermain Taylor and thought he was "pulling a Hopkins" by beating on smaller men like Ouma and Spinks. Not to mention his gift decision against Wright, a fight that most experts agree Wright won.

                    Nobody cries as hard as Jermain Taylor after a loss, with only the exception of his "fans". (AKA people who just hate Kelly Pavlik)
                    Yeah true true.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by MnTwins24
                      God it seems everyone is ducking calzaghe according to his fans. He's lucky he's been fighting in Europe his whole career.
                      I like Calzaghe but his fans are insane, everybody is ducking him according to them. Thankfully I won't have ot hear it for much longer since Bernard is set to take him out in April in fight that will be as onesided as it will be ugly.

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