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  • RageX
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    #21
    Originally posted by Tobi.G
    Inkin Top5 supermiddle?? Are you kidding?
    Yeah he has beaten decent fighters such as Julio Cesar Vasquez and Mario Veit. Also beaten undefeated contenders such as Konrad and Nagy, and is fighting Carl Froch next.

    Who do you have above him? Jeff "LOL" Lacy? who since got dominated by Calzaghe hasn't done ****, except get two gift decisions.

    Or Carl "The Joke" Froch? Who will get KTFO by Inkin anyway, they are fighting soon. Carl will get exposed just like Lacy and Hamed did.

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    • kayjay
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      #22
      Originally posted by Melly-Mel
      nah, if he came here people would fight him. he is nothing ultra special, or so great for anyone to fear. no one wants to go there and get robbed!
      If he left his huge fan base and TV contract?

      The only ones who could reasonably demand him to come here are Pavlik and Taylor. Everyone else should have to go to Germany.

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      • RageX
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        #23
        Originally posted by Tobi.G
        Inkin Top5 supermiddle?? Are you kidding? I would pik Miranda to beat him. I would also pick Miranda to beat Mundine.
        Is that a serious statement? If it is...then its your opinion fair enough

        But Miranda wont beat a boxer like Mundine now who is far too technical and fast for him, dont judge Mundine by boxrec of what he was before, he has improved a lot as a fighter and is very fast, good reflexes, etc. You should have seen his fights with Danny Green and Solimon (One got dominated, One got KO'd, who has never been KO'd before)

        Danny Green has a lot of power. Miranda beats Inkin based on what? Have you ever seen Inkin fight? The russian is a very good fighter and would beat Miranda the similar way Pavlik beat him because Miranda cant fight backwards. Inkin's workrate and speed along with power has been impressive so far and he has beaten better fighters than Miranda, what is Miranda's biggest win? A weight drained Allan Green who was pretty much competitive before the last round, he even knocked Miranda down.

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          #24
          Originally posted by RageX
          Is that a serious statement? If it is...then its your opinion fair enough

          But Miranda wont beat a boxer like Mundine now who is far too technical and fast for him, dont judge Mundine by boxrec of what he was before, he has improved a lot as a fighter and is very fast, good reflexes, etc. You should have seen his fights with Danny Green and Solimon (One got dominated, One got KO'd, who has never been KO'd before)

          Danny Green has a lot of power. Miranda beats Inkin based on what? Have you ever seen Inkin fight? The russian is a very good fighter and would beat Miranda the similar way Pavlik beat him because Miranda cant fight backwards. Inkin's workrate and speed along with power has been impressive so far and he has beaten better fighters than Miranda, what is Miranda's biggest win? A weight drained Allan Green who was pretty much competitive before the last round, he even knocked Miranda down.

          Miranda is exciting and I now like him, but the fact that he is a musclebound puncher with an American TV contract will mean that people will keep picking him to beat the Mundines and Inkins of the world. These are the opportunities for people like you to make money and/or e-points

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          • Tobi.G
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            #25
            Originally posted by RageX
            Is that a serious statement? If it is...then its your opinion fair enough

            But Miranda wont beat a boxer like Mundine now who is far too technical and fast for him, dont judge Mundine by boxrec of what he was before, he has improved a lot as a fighter and is very fast, good reflexes, etc. You should have seen his fights with Danny Green and Solimon (One got dominated, One got KO'd, who has never been KO'd before)

            Danny Green has a lot of power. Miranda beats Inkin based on what? Have you ever seen Inkin fight? The russian is a very good fighter and would beat Miranda the similar way Pavlik beat him because Miranda cant fight backwards. Inkin's workrate and speed along with power has been impressive so far and he has beaten better fighters than Miranda, what is Miranda's biggest win? A weight drained Allan Green who was pretty much competitive before the last round, he even knocked Miranda down.
            The only man who has really beaten Miranda yet is a come forward fighter himself, Kelly Pavlick. He didnt outbox him, he outslugged and outfought him. I have yet to see someone to outbox Miranda. Manny people thought Green would do it but i guess you know the result of that fight.
            And if you use the fact that Green was drained against Miranda as an excuse, i can usethe fact that Miranda was drained against Pavlick as an excuse too. And im shure he was drained. Now he fights at supermiddle and comes in close to 190 pounds! I see him knocking Mundine out. It wont be as easy as against Banks but he will do it!
            Last edited by Tobi.G; 02-15-2008, 01:48 PM.

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              #26
              arthur abraham is a joke. why are armenian fighters afraid to fight the best?

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                #27
                Originally posted by pabcs
                arthur abraham is a joke. why are armenian fighters afraid to fight the best?
                Believe me, hes afraid of nobody! I said already that you have to blame his management, not him!!

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Tobi.G
                  Believe me, hes afraid of nobody! I said already that you have to blame his management, not him!!
                  that is the cowardly way to blame the managers. if the fighter wants a fight he can tell his people to make it. taylors people didnt want him to rematch pavlik but taylor made them make the rematch happen immediately. that is the difference between a true warrior and a coward.

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                  • jcarr71
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                    #29
                    Okay, why does the IBF put up with this ****? Alaya!?!?? He is a proven bum. It isn't like he just hasn't fought anybody, christ. He lost twice to David Banks and drew with Sergio Mora. He's proven to be a C caliber fighter. It is like Abraham and his people want him to be a joke.

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                    • VanesBoxing
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                      #30
                      I too am not all that happy with the choice of opponent, but I think this will be an easy break fight for Abraham just so that he stays in top form to take on winner of Pavlik/Taylor too later on this year.

                      Abraham by KO before 8.

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