Taylor is destined to lose?

Collapse
Collapse
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • MELLY-MEL...
    Broken, Beat, Scarred
    Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
    • Dec 2007
    • 11274
    • 1,059
    • 1,667
    • 33,296

    #11
    i think kelly will prevail, but i really think taylor is a much better fighter than most give him credit for!

    Comment

    • Njord777
      Archaic Pugilist
      Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
      • May 2006
      • 2509
      • 177
      • 9
      • 8,928

      #12
      It seems to me most people are picking Pavlik. Is it just because of the method in which Jermain lost? I think the three issues I brought up will swing the fight one way or the other, honestly.

      Comment

      • boxingknight
        Banned
        Silver Champion - 100-500 posts
        • Jan 2008
        • 482
        • 26
        • 0
        • 572

        #13
        Pavlik doesn't have one punch ko power, it took multiple punches of his to end taylor. He kept landing his jab. Of course he doesn't hit soft at all but ko artist are ppl who end ppl in the first round or two.

        Comment

        • Njord777
          Archaic Pugilist
          Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
          • May 2006
          • 2509
          • 177
          • 9
          • 8,928

          #14
          Originally posted by boxingknight
          Pavlik doesn't have one punch ko power, it took multiple punches of his to end taylor. He kept landing his jab. Of course he doesn't hit soft at all but ko artist are ppl who end ppl in the first round or two.
          I have to disagree. If you don't have one punch KO power things like what happened to Zertuche wouldn't. You don't have to knock every man out in the first few rounds to have that power- when you knock the guy out has more to do with style than pure power.

          Comment

          • Dynamite Kid
            Slicker than your average
            Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
            • Feb 2007
            • 20701
            • 627
            • 209
            • 38,291

            #15
            Originally posted by boxingknight
            Pavlik doesn't have one punch ko power, it took multiple punches of his to end taylor. He kept landing his jab. Of course he doesn't hit soft at all but ko artist are ppl who end ppl in the first round or two.
            ive thought this for a while i dont think Pavlik is a Gerald McClellan or Julian Jackson but he is a very hard puncher who is relentless with his attacks

            i hope to see a good fight but i would also like to see Jermain try & use his skills & box to decision if thats what he has to do to win ,if he goes straight at Pavlik he will lose not only is Pavlik to strong a puncher for him he is also has a great work ethic where as Taylor does'nt

            Jermian Taylor is not a fighter he is a Boxer the problem is Jermain does'nt have the stamina to stay at a distance & Box he likes to fight at his pace thats how he beat Hopkins by holding the centre of the ring & controlling the pace of the fight

            Chris Eubank was the same kind of type of fighter as Taylor he could'nt work at a pace thats why he lost to Calzaghe & Collins he liked to control the pace of the fight but he was'nt allowed that luxury in those fights he had poor stamina aswell like Taylor

            Taylors fitness is poor IMO he was blowing for about 2 rounds after the knockdown all he did for the next 2 rounds was hold Kelly & when he did get knocked out it was cause his stamina was so bad that his reflexes had slowed down dramatically & he was'nt able to slip the punch or block it

            Comment

            • Dynamite Kid
              Slicker than your average
              Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
              • Feb 2007
              • 20701
              • 627
              • 209
              • 38,291

              #16
              Originally posted by Njord777
              I have to disagree. If you don't have one punch KO power things like what happened to Zertuche wouldn't. You don't have to knock every man out in the first few rounds to have that power- when you knock the guy out has more to do with style than pure power.
              yep Lennox lewis probably hit as hard as Tyson but Tyson style was based on getting his oponent out of there where as Lewis was more if the knock out comes ill take it otherwise ill just box for 12

              Comment

              • Scott9945
                Gonna be more su****ious
                Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
                • Mar 2007
                • 22032
                • 741
                • 1,371
                • 30,075

                #17
                Originally posted by J90
                I dont understand why the Taylor camp wanted to fight at 166, Kelly is naturally the bigger guy so surely it will only benefit him more


                My guess is that Taylor's people feel it is no longer healthy for him to be fighting at 160 lbs.

                Comment

                • KingTito
                  Undisputed Champion
                  Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
                  • Mar 2006
                  • 9391
                  • 234
                  • 350
                  • 22,960

                  #18
                  i'm not sure how the weight will play into this, it will help taylor, but it will also help pavlik.. as far as taylor being able to hurt pavlik, of course he can, taylor is a strong guy with hard, fast punches, he's capable of landing another shot like that, taylor not following up on pavlik in that second round was more his own fault.. like i've said a million times, i'm curious to see what adjustments taylor has made and whether or not he's 100% prepared.. taylor has the physical tools, but he has some obstacles to overcome, only time will tell, we'll find out saturday

                  Comment

                  • Njord777
                    Archaic Pugilist
                    Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
                    • May 2006
                    • 2509
                    • 177
                    • 9
                    • 8,928

                    #19
                    Originally posted by KingTito
                    i'm not sure how the weight will play into this, it will help taylor, but it will also help pavlik.. as far as taylor being able to hurt pavlik, of course he can, taylor is a strong guy with hard, fast punches, he's capable of landing another shot like that, taylor not following up on pavlik in that second round was more his own fault.. like i've said a million times, i'm curious to see what adjustments taylor has made and whether or not he's 100% prepared.. taylor has the physical tools, but he has some obstacles to overcome, only time will tell, we'll find out saturday
                    True enough. I'm just not sure Taylor can hurt Pavlik. I know in terms of pure punching power he can, he showed that, but Kelly got hurt when he was ****y and threw his chin out there. It didn't look like Jermain was able to find the sweet spot without the extra help. I'm not so sure he can really hurt Kelly again without the help.

                    Comment

                    • tyson
                      Undisputed Champion
                      Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 5344
                      • 317
                      • 435
                      • 13,084

                      #20
                      When it comes to the weight-issue, I think that it will acually benefit Taylor more than it will benefit Pavlik. Why?
                      Because of styles.
                      Taylor is faster and more explosive. As the commentator in fight night says:
                      "Speed guys really need that extra bit of conditioning to keep that up".

                      Weight draining affects explosiveness and speed more than it hurts power, so I think Team Taylor is looking for increased explosiveness and better conditioning so he won't slow down after 4-5 rounds.

                      Getting hit with a one-pound weight and a seven-pound weight does not in any way translate to boxing.
                      When it comes to power difference, it won't be much different this time around. Pavlik might hit harder at 166 than at 160, but Taylor's body will be stronger, so the scenario that he gets killed by a Pavlik punch this time around is slightly exaggerated...

                      The real issue, and the issue that no one can predict, is that of Taylor's head.
                      Nobody knows how he will react when he steps into the ring.
                      All anyone can give you at this point is a guess.
                      Your opinion is as good as anyone elses'.

                      Comment

                      Working...
                      TOP