Carlos Quintana "Punishes" Paul Williams To Win

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  • themaestro2657
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    #61
    Williams had never been in with a fighter as good as Quintana, and that includes Margarito (in my opinion). Williams barely beat Margarito. He has always been easy to hit. He always missed a lot. The only thing different this time was that he started throwing less punches after a while. I believe that is due to Quintanas movement and the fact that he was getting hit hard in the face A LOT.
    This is the same Williams as ever, only he got EXPOSED.

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    • darkvladimir
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      #62
      Originally posted by themaestro2657
      Williams had never been in with a fighter as good as Quintana, and that includes Margarito (in my opinion). Williams barely beat Margarito. He has always been easy to hit. He always missed a lot. The only thing different this time was that he started throwing less punches after a while. I believe that is due to Quintanas movement and the fact that he was getting hit hard in the face A LOT.
      This is the same Williams as ever, only he got EXPOSED.
      Barely beat Margarito? It was a UD.
      Easy to hit? He's 6'1-6'2.
      Exposed?
      I have no choice but to tolerate your opinion, though I disagree with it strongly.

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      • Mr. Ryan
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        #63
        People were wondering how Williams could lose to a guy like Quintana. It's simple, he didn't show up.

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        • boxingknight
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          #64
          Dumb, styles make fights and Quintana is a style that Pauls not good with. He is use to ppl coming forward, not ppl fighitng in a circular motion like Quintana does.

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          • Motofan
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            #65
            A couple things.

            1) Paul Williams couldnt break and egg with his punches.
            2)Quintana is one dirty fighter. Holy ****. Forearm, elbow, heab to the chin, punch behind the neck, hell I even saw a knee. Dirty, ugly fighter.
            3) Good to know you can win a title by landing about 10 good punches from the 5th round on. Way to go judges.
            4) Max was biased as hell in this fight. He should be homeless.
            5) Williams cant defend against a left to save his life.

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            • themaestro2657
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              #66
              Yes BARELY. It was 115-113. Some even had it a draw. There is no question Williams deserved that fight but there is also no question that it was closed.

              Yes he IS 6'1", WTF does that mean? He has always been easy to hit.

              He was exposed, no question about it. That dosen't mean he isnt a good fighter, it just means he was somewhat overrated.

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              • rebmogul
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                #67
                Originally posted by darkvladimir
                We all know by now what transpired (as if the millions of threads arent a indication) Saturday night on B.A.D. It what is undoubtedly is the biggest upset of the year, Quintana beat Williams. Ever since I joined the board, I promised myself and you all that I would remain as objective as possible. So, Ill start with the facts:

                1. In late December, Williams found out that he would be fighting Quintana in a month.
                2. Following the weigh-in, Williams ballooned to 164lbs on fight night.
                3. Despite averages of throwing 100 punches per round in previous bouts, Williams threw 552 punches in a 12 round span against Quintana.
                4. Paul Williams lost.

                Now, some will and have said already that Williams was a overrated fighter, that he didnt seriously train for and overlooked Quintana, that Quintana will beat Mayweather, and Im sure alot of other foolishness. But what I will state, as honestly as possible, is that the performance Paul Williams gave Sat. night wasnt at all similar to the past performances Ive seen him put out, or the past performances YOU have seen him give. Everything about Williams coming into this fight was different. He was a champ, drastically over the WW limit after the official weigh-in, and even had a new haircut. According to Lennox Lewis, Williams stated he planned on changing his attack for this fight, to "sit on his punches" to add power. Yet, he lost. After this fight, I was thinking about Lewis v Rahman, Morales v Raheem, Griffin v Jones I, Douglas v Tyson and countless other upsets that Ive seen. Were the favored fighters in those bouts overrated? In their losses, were they necessarily exposed? I dont believe so. Williams is a great champion, fistically gifted with a daunting physique. I think this fight was more Williams not executing his game-plan than Quintana executing his. And dont get me wrong, Quintana definately did. He used good movement, hand speed, punches in angles and overhand lefts to diffuse the "most feared fighter in the planet." But Williams didnt look so fearsome did he? He looked sluggish, slower than Quintana, confused, off-tempo, I could go on. But I dont have to, we all know how he looked. The question I want to pose is did he look like Paul Williams? Just my 2 cents. I know boxing.
                Really. This looked just like the same performance I saw from him at the Home Depot Center last year. He may have thrown more punched but they had NOTHING on them then or tonight.

                Paul Williams is a B level fighter at best. You can hang your hat on him all you want, just don't bet any money.

                Paul will give all B level fighters problems but he will never be a real threat to elite welter weights or a great fighter. He's done.....

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by rebmogul
                  Really. This looked just like the same performance I saw from him at the Home Depot Center last year. He may have thrown more punched but they had NOTHING on them then or tonight.

                  Paul Williams is a B level fighter at best. You can hang your hat on him all you want, just don't bet any money.

                  Paul will give all B level fighters problems but he will never be a real threat to elite welter weights or a great fighter. He's done.....
                  I don't get the finality in everyone writing Williams off. He lost to a good fighter in a close fight at a weight he doesn't need to be at.

                  I'm not sure if it's the weight issue, Williams' inactivity, or just an inability to adjust to Quintana's mobility, but that was not the same Williams who stepped in against Margarito. Williams wasn't using his jab or throwing enough punches. Anytime Williams throws less than 100 punches, he's not fighting his style.

                  Believe this, if Williams wins a rematch, the bandwagon will be back in full force.

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                  • Famoso Matador
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by silencers98
                    IMO it was because of Quintana, he kept moving and didn't allow Williams to set his feet in order to get his punches off.
                    I agree, Williams has always fought fighters that were in front of him. Margarito is a strong fighter but he is always in front of you. Quintana did a great job of moving and pot shotting Williams. Williams is the kind of fighter whom wins by way of punch output, and Quintana just did not give him the chance to do that.

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                    • rebmogul
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by NAPO
                      this was an amazing upset.
                      How was it so amazing? Other than a CONTROVERSIAL win over Margarito, another B fighter, who did Paul beat that made this loss so amazing? I'm not trying to argue, I just don't see it. What has he done?

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