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  • valdosta
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    #11
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    Originally posted by -Antonio-
    I've never seen the guy fight. If he's durable and has a good right hand then he should have a chance. Because Wilson relies heavily on his power, and he's got a slow measuring jab that can be countered over the top.
    Have heard from several people Flores was dropped against Chris Thomas. You are right that Wilson is limited but it's hard to say how good Flores is due to inexperience.

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    • Bhopreign
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      #12
      Originally posted by valdosta
      You can follow them as long as you want to. I don't really care who wins tonight. There's to many unknowns about Flores which is why he is the underdog. The guy who makes the lines for most of these books is far above your typical fan, FAR above it.
      I know they are above the typical fan, but they look mostly at that particular fighter's last couple bouts and make decisions. I knew having never seen Floyd in a championship fight that he would beat Genaro Hernandez, who was favored to beat him. That one was easy, also the Tarver, Hop fight and many others. I guarantee you Winky was the INITAL and ONGOING favorite over Hop because he at least got a draw with Taylor whom some think Wink won and also Hop lost to Taylor twice. That logic is mixing apples and oranges.

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      • Bhopreign
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        #13
        Originally posted by valdosta
        Have heard from several people Flores was dropped against Chris Thomas. You are right that Wilson is limited but it's hard to say how good Flores is due to inexperience.
        Any fighter can get dropped by any other fighter, Flores didnt lose though. Not like Wilson hasnt been hurt himself.

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        • valdosta
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          #14
          Originally posted by bhamdog
          Any fighter can get dropped by any other fighter, Flores didnt lose though. Not like Wilson hasnt been hurt himself.
          Wilson has fought a lot more legit competition than Flores has. his chin is a lot more proven than Flores is.

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          • Bhopreign
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            #15
            If Flores uses his jab which he does and doesnt get tired he should win. And keep that right hand up that Ive seen him drop.

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            • valdosta
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              #16
              Originally posted by bhamdog
              I know they are above the typical fan, but they look mostly at that particular fighter's last couple bouts and make decisions. I knew having never seen Floyd in a championship fight that he would beat Genaro Hernandez, who was favored to beat him. That one was easy, also the Tarver, Hop fight and many others. I guarantee you Winky was the INITAL and ONGOING favorite over Hop because he at least got a draw with Taylor whom some think Wink won and also Hop lost to Taylor twice. That logic is mixing apples and oranges.
              Wright was the correct favorite. You know who the correct favorite is by where the money comes in, not who wins. People bet the **** out of Wright for some odd reason. Believe me I know. Anyways, it's easy to talk about lines that were wrong after the fact. lets see if you are right on this fight. IMO it's to tough to tell because Flores has fought nobody.

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              • Bhopreign
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                #17
                Originally posted by valdosta
                Wright was the correct favorite. You know who the correct favorite is by where the money comes in, not who wins. People bet the **** out of Wright for some odd reason. Believe me I know. Anyways, it's easy to talk about lines that were wrong after the fact. lets see if you are right on this fight. IMO it's to tough to tell because Flores has fought nobody.
                It is tough to tell, but a good boxer will always beat Wilson barring he doesnt get knocked out. Winky was the opening favorite as I said at -110, so it didnt take bettors to do that, he was the opening favorite.

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                • valdosta
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by bhamdog
                  It is tough to tell, but a good boxer will always beat Wilson barring he doesnt get knocked out. Winky was the opening favorite as I said at -110, so it didnt take bettors to do that, he was the opening favorite.

                  he closed a lot higher. I know because i got Hopkins at +150 or so.

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                  • Hitman932
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                    #19
                    im betting on flores, the money has been coming in on wilson at my book though, odds have shifted to give flores a better payout in the past 3 hours

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                    • Dorian
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                      #20
                      so far so good

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