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  • #11
    Why did he not turn pro

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    Cubans are'nt allowed to trn pro there are exceptions but generally they stay amatuer

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    • #12
      He beat Felix Trinidad as well.

      His timing was brilliant, just there naturally.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by T-97 View Post
        Why did he not turn pro?
        Most Cuban fighters stay amateurs because the Cuban government is Communist and does not allow professional sportsman. Therefore all Cuban sportsman who wish to turn pro must defect and therefore leave their home country and family.

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        • #14
          Not sure have far he could've gone as a pro because we don't know how he would've adapted his style to suit the professional rankings but he did have a brilliant amateur career.

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          • #15
            Dream fight guys, Sugar Shane Mosley vs Mario Kindelan @ Lightweight

            I'm dribbiling here

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            • #16
              Equally as good, Teofilo Stevenson v Muhammed Ali.

              Although a bit younger than Ali, during Ali's reign Stevenson was the best Heavyweight Amateur on the planet and he could really punch. See the vid.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by T-97 View Post
                Why did he not turn pro?
                The communist system in Cuba prevent s boxers from turning professional in the sense of the fighting under professional rules. However and this sort of addresses the question of the thread, boxers (like most sportspeople) in communist countries are propoganda figures, the state throws their weight behind them and basically supports them financially.

                The upshot of this is that Cuban boxers are professionals in all but name and the rules of the game, the state supports their families they don't have to worry about loosing their job if they train too much in the way a US or western european boxer has too. From the age of 12 any potential in boxing or athletics is spotted and those kids are spent to special schools that devote a large percentage of the ciriculum to that schools particular specialty sport. This gives an unbelievebly competitive youth competition culture, so the best that emerge are the very best.

                When you add in the constant brainwashing of the state that to compete is to show superiority of the Cuban political system (to quote Tefilio Stevenson why defect and turn pro? What is worth more millions of dollars or the love of millions of Cubans?) and the cars and flats you are given (ok not Money Mayweather pay, but big privileges compared to the average Cuban) an you basically have a professional fighting against amatuers.

                If you add in the natural talent for boxing pre Castro (Kid Chocolate, Kid Gavilan) it is not suprising that they dominate.

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                • #18
                  The thing about Kindelan, he would throw a combo, step a side reset immediately and throw another combo, and he would do that throughout the whole fight, his opponents could never get any rhythm. I saw Khan against him in the Olypic finale in 2004, and Khan was knocking guys out on his way to the final. Kindalan played with him. beautiful to watch.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by _Ricky_ View Post
                    Dream fight guys, Sugar Shane Mosley vs Mario Kindelan @ Lightweight

                    I'm dribbiling here
                    oh yer both prime, that would be a quality fight.

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                    • #20
                      he would get killed.

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