Great Scot! Tall Tales Fly From Scotsman's Yard

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By Jake Donovan - Where's Sherlock Holmes when you need him? [details]

[Mozza]

The Scotsman isn't a tabloid. Don't slag people for not checking facts if you're not prepared to check them yourself.

[JakeNDaBox]

I referred to The Scotsman as a UK-based publication. My mentioning of local tabloids referred to print publications in general, a term commonly used for the sake of summarizing.

You stand corrected.

[Mozza]

I referred to The Scotsman as a UK-based publication. My mentioning of local tabloids referred to print publications in general, a term commonly used for the sake of summarizing.

You stand corrected.

boxers and boxing personalities are free to make remarks on a whim, and have their thoughts printed verbatim in their local tabloids.

That's your quote. Given the nature of the article the implication is that the remarks were made in a tabloid. The word tabloid is used to discredit the comments. The word verbatim is a bit out of place as well. Quotes have to be published verbatim otherwise the journalist isn't doing their job.

Frankly, I think your article is unnecessarily disparaging considering your knowledge of the Scottish media, tabloid newspapers or otherwise, would probably fit on the back of a stamp.

[STEELHEAD]

That's your quote. Given the nature of the article the implication is that the remarks were made in a tabloid. The word tabloid is used to discredit the comments. The word verbatim is a bit out of place as well. Quotes have to be published verbatim otherwise the journalist isn't doing their job.

Frankly, I think your article is unnecessarily disparaging considering your knowledge of the Scottish media, tabloid newspapers or otherwise, would probably fit on the back of a stamp.

oh boy mozza. what a lackey.
get your tongue out of the scotsmans ass.

[Mozza]

oh boy mozza. what a lackey.
get your tongue out of the scotsmans ass.

What have I said that sucks up The Scotsman's ass?

[jcarr71]

As an unbiased source from New York (who, for what it work, is about to be an English teacher), you definitely implied that it is a tabloid with your wording whether you meant to or not.

[JakeNDaBox]

That's your quote. Given the nature of the article the implication is that the remarks were made in a tabloid. The word tabloid is used to discredit the comments. The word verbatim is a bit out of place as well. Quotes have to be published verbatim otherwise the journalist isn't doing their job.

If that's the way you took it, then I can't help you. As an example, New York Newsday and Daily News are both referred to as tabloids in the course of discussions, and nobody gets their knickers in a twist over it.

As for the quote being printed verbatim, I'll give you that, perhaps a wrong choice of word. But my issue is that not only did it go unchallenged, but the reporter used it to support HIS OWN biased viewpoint, which all along has been that Guzman is looking for a way out of fighting Arthur.

All I'm asking is that this dude be called to task, because everything he's written regarding this fight has been with an extreme bias. People call US writers on it all of the time, and rarely do I disagree. But damn, look in the ****in' mirror first before running off to criticize others.

Frankly, I think your article is unnecessarily disparaging considering your knowledge of the Scottish media, tabloid newspapers or otherwise, would probably fit on the back of a stamp.

Apparently my article was very necessary, since you still don't get the point. My main point was to discredit remarks made by the publication, by Alex Arthur and Peter Harrison.

So far, not a single thing I said IN REGARDS TO GUZMAN-ARTHUR has been challenged. Why? Because everything I mentioned was backed up by facts. So those offended argue semantics to discredit my editorial.

All that said, I offered an apology in this morning's column to those who took offense to anything I said in yesterday's piece. But I stand by everything I said in regards to any accusations made by Scots against Guzman. And hopefully Mr. Donald will think twice before printing unresearched bull**** when mentioning his name.

[Mozza]

Guzman did pull out of fight with Harrison. That's a fact. Another fact is that Guzman had been making noises about moving up to lightweight. A third fact is that Guzman's manager was issuing warnings that Guzman might fight someone else. I agree that suggesting Guzman is scared of Alex Arthur is absurd but I'm not sure that has ever been seriously suggested.

[JakeNDaBox]

Guzman did pull out of fight with Harrison. That's a fact.

Not for the reasons alleged by Peter Harrison, or the slant offered by the publication. Guzman gave up on the idea that the Harrison fight was ever going to happen after HARRISON twice postponed. And guess what, Guzman was dead right - Harrison hasn't fought since then.

Another fact is that Guzman had been making noises about moving up to lightweight.

Guzman was making noise about fighting Manny Pacquiao. So has everyone else at or around the weight. Hell, Ricky Hatton - 10 lb. heavier, when in shape - was talking about fighting Pacquiao.

Arthur's people were talking about Amir Khan. Amazing how that gets left out of the scope.

A third fact is that Guzman's manager was issuing warnings that Guzman might fight someone else.

NOT fact. Jose Nunez (Guzman's manager, though your paper referred to him as Juan) said that if something can't be worked out with Arthur, that they would look at the next ranked challenger. He said that after negotiations stalled, believing that Arthur and Warren were angling to have Guzman stripped and fight for a vacant title. Nunez went on record with this very website to clear that up, that Guzman wasn't giving up a title and that if Arthur wanted it, he had to fight Guzman for it. That was the first time I took Mr. Donald to task and he himself even ran a retraction two days later, this time quoting Nunez for his side of the story.

I agree that suggesting Guzman is scared of Alex Arthur is absurd but I'm not sure that has ever been seriously suggested.

It's probably just pre-fight banter, but I'm still going to call bull**** on it all the same.