Ring Generalship = ******ed

[Dynamite Kid]

Jermain Taylor as has that type of style that always leads u to believe he is Controlling the pace of the fight etc cause he uses the jab very well from the centre fo the ring IE Hopkins 1+2 ,except for the Pavlik fight obviously ,maybe this is one of the reasons he always gets favourable judging in fights


i thought Montell Griffin controlled the 1st Toney fight by ring generalship

[RodBarker]

Jermain Taylor as has that type of style that always leads u to believe he is Controlling the pace of the fight etc cause he uses the jab very well from the centre fo the ring IE Hopkins 1+2 ,except for the Pavlik fight obviously ,maybe this is one of the reasons he always gets favourable judging in fights


i thought Montell Griffin controlled the 1st Toney fight by ring generalship

Good points Divad , thats why Ring Generalship its such a broad subjective term with each fight having its own circumstances , its sort a blend of controlling the fight with defense but still winning , I think its a term that was created to give points for the science part of the fight and like all aspects of boxing some judges give more credence over other aspects .

[Lucky13]

No it's not retarted, a perfect example is Wlad-Peter.

[The Noose]

I personally only take ring generalship into account if i cant decide who won a round based on scoring punches, aggresiveness, pressure, defence.

Actually, id say for me ring generalship is a combination of the above. Not some seperate thing.

[deliveryman]

Ring Generalship is rewards whoever is controlling the pace of the fight.

You may definitely control the pace of a round and still lose the round without question. Hence the 3 other criteria.

You cannot look at each of the four judging criterias seperately, but all of them conjointly. They all support and are essentially related to eachother. Clean Effective Punching directly affects Defense, Ring Generalship directly affects Effective Aggression, etc, etc.

If each criteria were to be look at seperately, there would be a judging system similar to what they use in figure skating. Where each criteria gets a seperate score, and then they're all added up.

[RodBarker]

Ring Generalship is rewards whoever is controlling the pace of the fight.

You may definitely control the pace of a round and still lose the round without question. Hence the 3 other criteria.

You cannot look at each of the four judging criterias seperately, but all of them conjointly. They all support and are essentially related to eachother. Clean Effective Punching directly affects Defense, Ring Generalship directly affects Effective Aggression, etc, etc.

If each criteria were to be look at seperately, there would be a judging system similar to what they use in figure skating. Where each criteria gets a seperate score, and then they're all added up.

Good answer that is spot on !

[Fox McCloud]

Harold Lederman would beg to differ....... Like when he scored Hatton's first round against Mayweather 10-9

Yeah, I thought that round was pretty clearly Mayweather's, but whatever... I think everyone got a lot more caught up in Mayweather falling back when he got his shoe stepped on, but that's just me.

Ring generalship is when you put yourself in the position to defend and attack well.

Yeah, but who cares if you don't do anything about it? When you put yourself in a great position to **** your opponent up and don't, did it do anything positive for you? Not really.

I like the answer that it is merely a part of everything else... I agree with that. I think that the 4 categories all overlap like a beast, to the point that there is really no way they can separate and effective.

[Fox McCloud]

Ring Generalship is rewards whoever is controlling the pace of the fight.

You may definitely control the pace of a round and still lose the round without question. Hence the 3 other criteria.

You cannot look at each of the four judging criterias seperately, but all of them conjointly. They all support and are essentially related to eachother. Clean Effective Punching directly affects Defense, Ring Generalship directly affects Effective Aggression, etc, etc.

If each criteria were to be look at seperately, there would be a judging system similar to what they use in figure skating. Where each criteria gets a seperate score, and then they're all added up.

Very good post...

This is why I hate hearing that X fighter is winning this fight on ring generalship... because that honestly sounds like they are winning the fight because they are going through the motions of what they are supposed to be doing, when in reality, it doesn't matter worth a damn if the fighter doesn't capitalize on that.

[Fox McCloud]

Ring generalship is still ******ed.

[Jim Jeffries]

Ring generalship is still ******ed.

It should only come into play if everything else is equal. If the other guy is landing more cleaner, harder blows, I don't care what you do, you should lose the round.