David Haye: "Macca's Knockout Will Be Brutal"

[JoartCC]

I agree that Floyd needs to be fighting the elite in the WW division instead of fighting DLH. If he were to clean out the division than his claims of being the best ever would make more sense, but I just get tired of all this stuff about how he is a coward and hate towards him. I understand people have their opinions about him and Im fine with them expressing it, but this article had nothing to do with Mayweather and it just seems certain posters are just trying to hard to go out of there way to degrade him. Like jaws said there are already a million threads about Mayweather good or bad. Go in there and express your opinion that's fine.

This article has EVERYTHING TO DO WITH FAKE FLOYD.

You wanna know why?

What Haye is doing is THE DEFINITION OF GREATNESS. Haye is putting a lot in the line for something he doesn't have to do yet crosses borders to do it.

Fight at a weight he's suffering to make just to prove he's the best at that weight instead of ducking and diving.

You see dude what Haye said and does is the very standard of how we should measure GREAT.

Too bad some folks don't understand it.

[Gareth Ivanovic]

This article has EVERYTHING TO DO WITH FAKE FLOYD.

You wanna know why?

What Haye is doing is THE DEFINITION OF GREATNESS. Haye is putting a lot in the line for something he doesn't have to do yet crosses borders to do it.

Fight at a weight he's suffering to make just to prove he's the best at that weight instead of ducking and diving.

You see dude what Haye said and does is the very standard of how we should measure GREAT.

Too bad some folks don't understand it.

For you it may have everything to do with Floyd, which it seems to be the case since you hardly ever talk about anything else. I understand what your saying about Haye and how he's taking a chance and risking bigger paydays in the future. I also understand that your implying that Floyd is Fake because he doesn't do the same and fight a risky fight, but like I said earlier this article didn't have any mentioning of Floyd. It just seems your trying way to hard to prove something or either your an alt having a fun time with this.

[JoartCC]

For you it may have everything to do with Floyd, which it seems to be the case since you hardly ever talk about anything else. I understand what your saying about Haye and how he's taking a chance and risking bigger paydays in the future. I also understand that your implying that Floyd is Fake because he doesn't do the same and fight a risky fight, but like I said earlier this article didn't have any mentioning of Floyd. It just seems your trying way to hard to prove something or either your an alt having a fun time with this.

Take an argument for it's value not because of my intent.

We both know that approach has full of loopholes.

Judge the merits of my arguments and that's it.

If you try to point out my intentions then you will only fall because arguments based on character attacks are basically shallow.

I DO HOPE YOU KNOW THAT.

SERIOUSLY.

I DO.

[Gareth Ivanovic]

If you try to point out my intentions then you will only fall because arguments based on character attacks are basically shallow.

Well isn't that what you do with Floyd? Sounds a little contradicting.

[JoartCC]

Well isn't that what you do with Floyd? Sounds a little contradicting.

My point of attack is not on the character of Fake Floyd per se.

It's different.

My point is in connection with the word GREAT and FLOYD.

That's my bottomline.

How can you call yourself great when all you do is duck and weave.

I attack Fake Floyd's character in connection with his claim that he's the fcking G.O.A.T.

I could care less if Fake Floyd is a wife-beater, or he's a rapist, or he's a drug-dealer. Those things are distinct. Bottomline for me and my arguments is GREATNESS IN BOXING.

Whereas you are trying to point out my intentions instead of taking the merits at face value.

No offense instended.

[sparked_85]

In fairness it's not like Haye is getting nothing for this.

He is getting £700,000, I heard. What's that $1.3 million dollars.

.....Not bad.

Haye would have not had a payday like that for a few years of campaigning at heavy.

It is a risk though, because Haye could probably be titlist at Heavy now, and if he was, he'd be bigger than Hatton. We love a heavyweight.

[JoartCC]

In fairness it's not like Haye is getting nothing for this.

He is getting £700,000, I heard. What's that $1.3 million dollars.

.....Not bad.

Haye would have not had a payday like that for a few years of campaigning at heavy.

It is a risk though, because Haye could probably be titlist at Heavy now, and if he was, he'd be bigger than Hatton. We love a heavyweight.

If you look at a management perspective Haye is making a ****** mistake by fighting Macca.

Macca is ****ing dangerous. Sure he's unheralded and unproven but hungry guys like Macca who has something to prove are always bad matchups.

Haye could go up and fight some tune-ups at heavy for the same payday and in a few fights he'd get a title shot.

Beating Macca will cement his reputation as a fearless guy if not cemented already but losing to Macca will downgrade his position a few notches.

That is why Haye is admirable.

[Gareth Ivanovic]

My point of attack is not on the character of Fake Floyd per se.

It's different.

My point is in connection with the word GREAT and FLOYD.

That's my bottomline.

How can you call yourself great when all you do is duck and weave.

I attack Fake Floyd's character in connection with his claim that he's the fcking G.O.A.T.

I could care less if Fake Floyd is a wife-beater, or he's a rapist, or he's a drug-dealer. Those things are distinct. Bottomline for me and my arguments is GREATNESS IN BOXING.

Whereas you are trying to point out my intentions instead of taking the merits at face value.

No offense instended.

I agree that Floyd's claims of being the G.O.A.T are overblown. I personally feel he needs to fight the top WW's and if he cleans out the division than his claim is more legitimate, but I also see his talent when he fights. So that means I don't come on here and degrade him. So it's hard to take your merits at face value when all you posts are basically about how Floyd is a coward and he ducks everbody. Take this thread for example it was about Macca and Haye and somehow you turn it around into something about Floyd again.

[JoartCC]

I agree that Floyd's claims of being the G.O.A.T are overblown. I personally feel he needs to fight the top WW's and if he cleans out the division than his claim is more legitimate, but I also see his talent when he fights. So that means I don't come on here and degrade him. So it's hard to take your merits at face value when all you posts are basically about how Floyd is a coward and he ducks everbody. Take this thread for example it was about Macca and Haye and somehow you turn it around into something about Floyd again.

Talent is proven by fighting the best.

Judah has talent but look at him.

But really I don't degrade Fake Floyd any lower than he is already right now.

Besides I'm just stating the facts and I'm not inventing some BS thing.

Everything I said happened and majority if not all of my arguments are basically solid. Of course I'm always open for correction and has in the past more than willingly admitted mistakes.

But only by a more logical argument.

[BennyST]

I actually can't believe that I have seen this thread about two Cruiserweights, Haye and Macca, turn into a thread about Welterweight Mayweather ducking challenges and being 'Fake'? I simply can't believe it

Lets bring it back to where it should be and thats about two great fighters who have nothing whatsoever to do with Welterweights and Mayweather. Lets let them have their own thread and let ... err...'Fake Floyd' have his own hate threads. C,mon Joart, take it somewhere else mate. Don't turn a good thread into something no one wants to hear.