what fighter was robbed most by the judges?

[Boxingwizard]

I'll say it once, and I'll say it again. If Lederman doesn't have fighter A winning, fighter A cannot be robbed.

Lederman settled on a draw for Trinidad-De La Hoya... not a robbery.

And since when was Lederman actually right on a fight? According to punch stats De La Hoya out landed Trinidad by 137 punches. Also one of the judges gave the 12th round to De La Hoya when he didn't do a damn thing in the 12th round. I'm telling you Don King had something do with the outcome on that fight.

[Fox McCloud]

Lederman, you talking about Harold "Jim I gotta Tell Ya" Lederman, lol, I agree wit his scorecards sometimes but I still thot De La Hoya was robbed. I cursed at the TV, I flipped a chair, then I relized De La Hoya made 50 billion dollars more then Trinidad and I got over it lol

How can it be a robbery when a truly neutral party doesn't even endorse the person who you thought got robbed?

[Fox McCloud]

And since when was Lederman actually right on a fight? According to punch stats De La Hoya out landed Trinidad by 137 punches. Also one of the judges gave the 12th round to De La Hoya when he didn't do a damn thing in the 12th round. I'm telling you Don King had something do with the outcome on that fight.

All good and fine, but robbery means judges score it for a certain fighter on a pre-determined basis, meaning they have some incentive for doing so.

What incentive would HBO's unoffical scorer have to "rob" Oscar with a draw?

He may be an idiot, but he still judges on a neutral basis, which rule his cards out when it comes to robberies.

[Silencers]

And since when was Lederman actually right on a fight? According to punch stats De La Hoya out landed Trinidad by 137 punches. Also one of the judges gave the 12th round to De La Hoya when he didn't do a damn thing in the 12th round. I'm telling you Don King had something do with the outcome on that fight.

A judge doesn't score fights by punch stats, it's a round by round basis, I thought DLH won as well but him running for the last 3 rounds made it a close fight so I don't call it a robbery.

[Dice]

Lederman's card has nothing to do with anything. Its the actual judges scorecard. I simply call it a robbery because Everyone knows that Oscar won 75 to 80 percent of that fight in rounds.

On a side note, anyone else find Lederman's voice hilarious

[Silencers]

Lederman's card has nothing to do with anything. Its the actual judges scorecard. I simply call it a robbery because Everyone knows that Oscar won 75 to 80 percent of that fight in rounds.

On a side note, anyone else find Lederman's voice hilarious

Sounds like a cartoon character lol.

[Dice]

Sounds like a cartoon character lol.

LMAO EXACTLY

[rudement]

did you mean burton vs ebo elder?
cause that was one of the most kick ass fights ive seen

[Lazy Liberal]

And since when was Lederman actually right on a fight? According to punch stats De La Hoya out landed Trinidad by 137 punches. Also one of the judges gave the 12th round to De La Hoya when he didn't do a damn thing in the 12th round. I'm telling you Don King had something do with the outcome on that fight.

I still remember the reaction of all those who heard the decison when Tito won. Everyone said bull**** at the same time. When Tito won I told everyone to remember who his promoter was. Of course I can't prove it but I know some foul **** was involved. i know as oscar fan that he should not have run around like a preschool kid at recess for the last 3 rounds , but **** he won the fight. He also got ripped of against Mosley in the second fight . This was another one where even Oscar haters said BULL****. I'm not a loyal **** massager of Oscars I know that he lost against Felix Sturm and he got the decision.

[Fox McCloud]

Lederman's card has nothing to do with anything. Its the actual judges scorecard. I simply call it a robbery because Everyone knows that Oscar won 75 to 80 percent of that fight in rounds.

On a side note, anyone else find Lederman's voice hilarious

Everyone except for Harold... who has been judging for 20+ years.

He is a better-trained judge than any of us on boxingscene...

He also is watching what the official judges are watching, from ringside, not from their living rooms.

So he has the same amount of training as the official judges, and he calls it a draw, meaning he didn't give De La Hoya the win. How is that a robbery?

What motive does Harold have to "rob" Oscar with his unofficial card? Not a single ****ing one.