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  • βetamax
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    #31
    The difference between Hopkins calling Calzaghe "white boy" and Calzaghe calling Hopkins "black boy" is the difference between being hit with a wiffle bat and a wooden bat. Hopkins may have swung but there is no damage. I'm not suggesting that what he said was ok, but for Calzaghe to make the same comment would NOT be on equal ground.

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    • HappyBoxingFan
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      #32
      Originally posted by mt102879
      The difference between Hopkins calling Calzaghe "white boy" and Calzaghe calling Hopkins "black boy" is the difference between being hit with a wiffle bat and a wooden bat. Hopkins may have swung but there is no damage. I'm not suggesting that what he said was ok, but for Calzaghe to make the same comment would NOT be on equal ground.
      Yeah. A double standard exists. We all know that. I think people are questioning the fairness of the double standard.

      Personally... I think invective, especially racial invective is part of boxing's history. Let's stop being so politically correct... let the guys say mean things... let them hug afterwards.

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      • Brother Blues
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        #33
        Also,in terms of black and white.....
        I lived thru the build-up and attended the closed-circuit broadcast of Holmes-Cooney.And let me say that what is going on with Bernard pales in comparison to what went on during that event.
        I remember the air being very thick with tension during that fight...which I am sure that Calzaghe/Hopkins will be much more mild.
        I seriously doubt there will be slurs tossed about from the crowd...or any fistfights in the audience.
        Let's just hope there's one in the ring....


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        • Crazylegs77
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          #34
          Originally posted by mt102879
          The difference between Hopkins calling Calzaghe "white boy" and Calzaghe calling Hopkins "black boy" is the difference between being hit with a wiffle bat and a wooden bat. Hopkins may have swung but there is no damage. I'm not suggesting that what he said was ok, but for Calzaghe to make the same comment would NOT be on equal ground.

          It wouldnt be on equal grounds only in terms of the reaction it would get from the media. Because believe me everyone (not only boxing fans) would know what was said if it was the other way around.

          The thing is people are not idiots I dont think they would get offended by such a dumb statement, I think its the media that always blows crap out of proportion, but in this case it hasnt registered in the mainstream media.

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          • The Hammer
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            #35
            Originally posted by mt102879
            The difference between Hopkins calling Calzaghe "white boy" and Calzaghe calling Hopkins "black boy" is the difference between being hit with a wiffle bat and a wooden bat. Hopkins may have swung but there is no damage. I'm not suggesting that what he said was ok, but for Calzaghe to make the same comment would NOT be on equal ground.
            No, it exactly the same thing. Racism is racism, no matter who it's from or who it's directed against.

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            • squealpiggy
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              #36
              then again white people dont get ****ed over the way black people do in america do they?
              Sure they do. White people get ****ed over the way black people do all over America. Skin colour may be less of a factor for whites but poor is poor, uneducated is uneducated, and the poor and uneducated are the ones who are ****ed over regardless of if they're black, white or somewhere in between. You think that, as an example, Barack ***** had it tougher than Eminem growing up because of the colour of his skin?

              Not everyone who is ****ed over is black just as not everyone who is black is ****ed over.

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              • Scott9945
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                #37
                Originally posted by Brother Blues
                Also,in terms of black and white.....
                I lived thru the build-up and attended the closed-circuit broadcast of Holmes-Cooney.And let me say that what is going on with Bernard pales in comparison to what went on during that event.
                I remember the air being very thick with tension during that fight...which I am sure that Calzaghe/Hopkins will be much more mild.
                I seriously doubt there will be slurs tossed about from the crowd...or any fistfights in the audience.
                Let's just hope there's one in the ring....


                Very true. That was an ugly promotion. King (and both fighters) made a fortune off of provoking racism.

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                • QuCongee
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                  #38
                  Jesus Christ....

                  Is this the Joe Calzaghe thread or the LA riots thread?

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                  • βetamax
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Tunney5
                    No, it exactly the same thing. Racism is racism, no matter who it's from or who it's directed against.
                    I disagree. Again, I'm not supporting Hopkins comments but you got to put things into perspective. Black people still face racism in the school system, prison system, job market, loan market, and many other facets of life. This is why there would be much more power and hurt behind saying "never lose to a black boy".

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                    • MELLY-MEL...
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by mt102879
                      I disagree. Again, I'm not supporting Hopkins comments but you got to put things into perspective. Black people still face racism in the school system, prison system, job market, loan market, and many other facets of life. This is why there would be much more power and hurt behind saying "never lose to a black boy".
                      source your facts!

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