B-Hop/Joe C -Who faced Better Opposition?

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  • TopDawg
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    #11
    Bernard Hopkins, IMO.

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    • Greatwhitehope
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      #12
      Originally posted by Tunney5
      Hopkins lost to the opponents his own size, Jones and Taylor. The best names on his resume he defeated were welterweights - DLH and Trinidad.
      Still better opposition in my opinion.

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      • Jim Jeffries
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        #13
        Originally posted by crazylegs77
        Im just comparing overall competition, not who they fought.
        My point being, you're trying to compare competition based soley on records, which we all know can be inflated. Look at Ricky Hatton's record at 38-0 (right before he fought Tszyu) and compare it with Mayweather's record at 38-0 (right before he fought Hatton). You cannot simply add numbers together and compare resumes.

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        • warp1432
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          #14
          I think Hopkins and Calzaghe both have good resumes (not great like most superstars), but Hopkins edges it.

          Definietly agree you can't compare on numbers though.

          I'll probably be making a "Great/Good/Average" with Hopkins and Calzaghe's resume pretty soon like I did Mayweather's
          Last edited by warp1432; 01-17-2008, 10:40 PM.

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          • Great-E
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            #15
            Originally posted by Tunney5
            Hopkins lost to the opponents his own size, Jones and Taylor. The best names on his resume he defeated were welterweights - DLH and Trinidad.
            Nice way to make him look bad. When Tito and DLH met it was called "Hearns vs Leonard" because they were perceived two of the best in boxing at the time. B Hop dominated both, moved UP in weight to face the best light heavyweight in the world and proceeded to humiliate him.

            Calzaghe has Lacy and Kessler but it still won't hold up against B Hop's resume.

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            • Shanus
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              #16
              Calzaghe has the better victories (Lacy, Kessler, Eubank) but Hopkins has faced bigger names (though smaller fighters).

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              • Crazylegs77
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                #17
                Originally posted by gavinz1970
                My point being, you're trying to compare competition based soley on records, which we all know can be inflated. Look at Ricky Hatton's record at 38-0 (right before he fought Tszyu) and compare it with Mayweather's record at 38-0 (right before he fought Hatton). You cannot simply add numbers together and compare resumes.
                Every fighters record is inflated, they fight low competition early to build records. Thats why looking at it like this is interesting, it shows everyone they fought and shows who may have had more of a challenge on the way up.

                But your right, to do it properly Id have to compare every single opponents record of every fighter that they ever fought to be accurate, but I dont have 2 weeks of free time!

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                • The Hammer
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                  #18
                  This is interesting:

                  According to the IBO website, Hopkins is 24-3-1 against opponents ranked in the top 50.



                  Calzaghe is 23-0 against "top 50" opponents:



                  I know their system isn't perfect, but it is computer-generated and they try to be as objective as possible.

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                  • deuce_drop
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                    #19
                    it's all what you make of it really, anyone can **** on either one of these guys record, you look hard enough and deep enough with enough scrutiny and they both can either look great or look like douche bags........................

                    the main thing is to get them into the ring and let them settle who's better and has been better.

                    who ever wins their fight has the better resume and is the better fighter............how about that, instead of talking about this, that, and the other thing................

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