The Jones-Trinidad Pre-Fight Report Card

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  • BIGPOPPAPUMP
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    The Jones-Trinidad Pre-Fight Report Card

    By Cliff Rold - Everyone and everything grows old but God. Even those that once appeared near God-like in their realm can’t escape the inevitability of it all. The American myth of Superman turns 70 in 2008 and, in ring terms, former multi-division titlists Roy Jones and Felix Trinidad might well be older than that number. Their combined age surpasses it and, unlike creatures of fiction, their age limits the potential for reinvention.

    When they step into the ring on Saturday night, in front of those who paid the exorbitant full ticket prices to be there, those who paid the recently slashed ticket prices, and everyone else, Jones (51-4, 38 KO) will be 39 and Trinidad (42-2, 35 KO) will be 35. Each won their first major title almost 15 years ago, in 1993, and they are far removed from those days. The story that will be spun in the moments and days after the final bell tolls for this showdown is a story of redemption, of one man or the other having stamped his foot in defiance of time. [details]
  • NachoMan
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    Tito KO9 Jones

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    • jt$
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      Off topic but can anyone help me find more information on a legendary mid 1800's brawl that lasted more than 100 rounds. It ended when one fighter died and took place in New York and was written about in the New York Times. It loosely inspired the boxing scene in Gangs of New York. If anyone can tell me who was in it or any more details I would be very grateful.

      P.S. Jones by UD in a snooze-fest

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      • THE REED
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        100 Rounds?!?!!?!??!!?!?!?!?

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        • jt$
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          It may have even been 150 rounds+, no bull****. I've seen the NYT story before but can't remember where, probably in some history of boxing book.

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          • F-22 Raptor
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            NObody, not even the best navy seal, green beret, or french foreign legion guy, could last 100 3 minute rounds of FIGHTING. your body would break down around the 20th, watch how boxers starts breathing at the 11th. Not possible.

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            • weepaul
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              #7
              Originally posted by jt$
              Off topic but can anyone help me find more information on a legendary mid 1800's brawl that lasted more than 100 rounds. It ended when one fighter died and took place in New York and was written about in the New York Times. It loosely inspired the boxing scene in Gangs of New York. If anyone can tell me who was in it or any more details I would be very grateful.

              P.S. Jones by UD in a snooze-fest
              The fight you might be talking about was in the 1830's and was between James Burke and Simon Byrne.

              The fight lasted 98 rounds and over 3 hours. Byrne left the ring in a coma and died a couple of days later.

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              • Great-E
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                Originally posted by toincito
                NObody, not even the best navy seal, green beret, or french foreign legion guy, could last 100 3 minute rounds of FIGHTING. your body would break down around the 20th, watch how boxers starts breathing at the 11th. Not possible.

                Well John L. Sullivan went 21 rounds with James J Corbett in 1892.

                Anyway, i don't see how Tito can win this fight. It's a ridicilous jump in weight for Tito, his speed and power are propably diminished and he's too flat footed. If Tito thinks he can huff & puff Roy's house down, he's doomed. Roy won't stand in front of him and Tito can't force the issue. Tito is bad at trapping people into the ropes and he needs time to set up his punches(plant the front feet) and Roy won't give him that much needed time. Tito will be looking to **** Roy all night but Roy won't be there and even if he would be, Tito's power is not the same at LHW.

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                • TheGreatA
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                  James Corbett went 61 rounds with Peter Jackson. The fight was stopped and called a no contest because both were too exhausted to continue.

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                  • jt$
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                    For anyone that cares the fight I was thinking of was Chris Lilly vs. Tom McCoy 13 Sept. 1842. Apparently it went 120 rounds (a round ended with a knockdown I think) and lasted 2 hours+. A link to the story is below.

                    http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive...BF66838D649FDE

                    I guess my interest in this subject is due to a distinct lack of interest in Saturday's action. I'll of course be watching at a bar but am indifferent to this meaningless matchup. These old warriors should be fighting the new generation if they want to earn back credibility.

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