All-time p4p top 10

[Scott9945]

Originally Posted by GooGoo Marvin Hagler Sugar Ray Leonard James Toney Roberto Duran Willie Pep Floyd Mayweather Jr. Rocky Marciano Ricky Hatton Bernard Hopkins Morrade Hakkar

Is Hakkar there as a joke?

I think that goes without saying. But I was wondering about Ricky Hatton...

[Vigilant3]

I'm jus' going to let you guys know beforehand that my top 10 P4P is based on skill, head-to-head fighting and a very slight emphasis on accomplishments.

Top 10

1 - Roy Jones Jr.
2 - Sugar Ray Robinson
3 - Muhammad Ali
4 - Roberto Duran
5 - Willie Pep
6 - Joe Louis
7 - Henry Armstrong
8 - Pernell Whitaker
9 - Ezzard Charles
10 - Thomas Hearns

As far as people comparing Calzaghe to Roy Jones Jr? LoL! Biggest laugh I've had all night. What a joke that is. Ahahahaha...Oh man. Head to head and based purely on skill? Roy Jones Jr. should be in everyone's top 5. Accomplishments, maybe not, but head to head and based on skill and ability? He has to be. Calzaghe on the other hand? He's the perfect embodiment of the phrase, "Show me a fighter who's undefeated and I'll show you a fighter who hasn't fought anybody."

Also...dominating one division for ten years? Roy Jones Jr. dominated three for over ten years. In fact, he went ten years basically without losing a round. The hell has Calzaghe done besides fight bums and Kessler/Lacy?

[Mr. Violence]

Marciano was the greatest of all time. Everyone else comes after him.

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Thinking solely in p4p tenses (best regardless if weight):

1. Ray Robinson
2. Henry Armstrong
3. Sam Lanford
4. Roberto Duran
5. Ray Leonard
6. Muhammad Ali
7. Willie Pep
8. Thomas Hearns
9. Joe Luis
10. Rocky Marciano
11. Pernell Whitaker
12. Roy Jones, Jr.
13. Floyd Mayweather, Jr.
14. Evander Holyfield
15. Oscar de la Hoya

*Not a skills based list, a preformance-regardless-of-weight based list.

[Scott9945]

Marciano was the greatest of all time. Everyone else comes after him.

Maybe if the only factor you use is win percentage. Otherwise he really isn't close.

[-Swizzy-]

I'm jus' going to let you guys know beforehand that my top 10 P4P is based on skill, head-to-head fighting and a very slight emphasis on accomplishments.

Top 10

1 - Roy Jones Jr.
2 - Sugar Ray Robinson
3 - Muhammad Ali
4 - Roberto Duran
5 - Willie Pep
6 - Joe Louis
7 - Henry Armstrong
8 - Pernell Whitaker
9 - Ezzard Charles
10 - Thomas Hearns

As far as people comparing Calzaghe to Roy Jones Jr? LoL! Biggest laugh I've had all night. What a joke that is. Ahahahaha...Oh man. Head to head and based purely on skill? Roy Jones Jr. should be in everyone's top 5. Accomplishments, maybe not, but head to head and based on skill and ability? He has to be. Calzaghe on the other hand? He's the perfect embodiment of the phrase, "Show me a fighter who's undefeated and I'll show you a fighter who hasn't fought anybody."

Also...dominating one division for ten years? Roy Jones Jr. dominated three for over ten years. In fact, he went ten years basically without losing a round. The hell has Calzaghe done besides fight bums and Kessler/Lacy?

oooo, contreversial p4p list, interesting. I'd like to correct you on the 10 years of domination, its 15 years that he has dominated 3 divisions not including the heavyweight title that he won. I forgot the number, but I think he won like 10 titles. And in those 10 titles he fought some great fighters. Its a joke that ppl are hating on Jones. You can make the argument that he shouldn't be top 5, but he should be top 10 for sure.

[-Swizzy-]

oooo, contreversial p4p list, interesting. I'd like to correct you on the 10 years of domination, its 15 years that he has dominated 3 divisions not including the heavyweight title that he won. I forgot the number, but I think he won like 10 titles. And in those 10 titles he fought some great fighters. Its a joke that ppl are hating on Jones. You can make the argument that he shouldn't be top 5, but he should be top 10 for sure.

oh sorry I was wrong, he won 13 not 10 titles. not all are major titles but its still very impressive.
List of RJJ's titles
1. WBC SMW
2. IBF MW
3. IBF SMW
4. WBC LHW
5. WBA LHW
6. IBF LHW
7. IBO LHW
8. NBA LHW
9. WBF LHW
10.IBA LHW
11.WBA HW
12.NABO LHW
13.IBC LHW

[tills9191]

oh sorry I was wrong, he won 13 not 10 titles. not all are major titles but its still very impressive.
List of RJJ's titles
1. WBC SMW
2. IBF MW
3. IBF SMW
4. WBC LHW
5. WBA LHW
6. IBF LHW
7. IBO LHW
8. NBA LHW
9. WBF LHW
10.IBA LHW
11.WBA HW
12.NABO LHW
13.IBC LHW

thats a crazy list...

[tills9191]

anyway, here's my list
1. floyd mayweather jnr
2. mohammad ali.
3. mike tyson
4.joe calzaghe.
5. sugar ray robinson
6.roy jones jnr
7.shane mosley
8.bernard hopkins
9.roberto duran
10.pernell whittaker