Whats the best strategy vs Floyd?

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  • -Swizzy-
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    #31
    Originally posted by crazylegs77
    I was thinking about how all fighters follow Floyd around the ring. None have had significant success.. I think the next fighter to face him should try a new tactic.

    Maybe let Floyd come in and try to counter.


    1) Do not attack Floyd
    2) Do not move foward......let him make the fight on his own
    3) keep moving away
    4) Only engage Floyd after he comes in and attack using counters or time him when he comes in


    Any other ideas?
    a long reach is needed for this strategy and floyd fights better against fighters with this strategy. thats what makes him so good, he could fight any way shape and form. at the beginning of his career when fighters were closer to his size or smaller, he was the predator. but now that fighters are usually bigger than he is, he uses the strategy in your post. when hatton got tired, he tried that strategy for about 25 seconds and mayweather took care of him.

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    • CRESCENDOPOWER
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      #32
      With raw speed, and a jab just like Sugar Ray Leonard.

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      • Sugar_ITA
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        #33
        Originally posted by crazylegs77
        I was thinking about how all fighters follow Floyd around the ring. None have had significant success.. I think the next fighter to face him should try a new tactic.

        Maybe let Floyd come in and try to counter.


        1) Do not attack Floyd
        2) Do not move foward......let him make the fight on his own
        3) keep moving away
        4) Only engage Floyd after he comes in and attack using counters or time him when he comes in


        Any other ideas?
        It's quite simple: pump a lot a long jab and eventually use a heavier body in the ring (see De La Hoya)

        I mean, if you imagine a fighter who fights ad De La Hoya did in his match against PBF in the first six rounds (the 2nd round, the 2nd round!) for 12 rounds he will beat Floyd Mayweather.

        that's why Miguel Cotto won't defeat PBF. Cintron and Margarito aren't skilled enough. Corrales had the tools to defeat Floyd but he used too much hooks, uppercuts and wasn't skilled enough. Paul Williams is a candidate but isn't experienced enough. De La Hoya in a rematch won't defeat Floyd because he will run out of gas (but the De La Hoya againist Mosley II and Vargas could!)

        Uh, this is possibile only in welterweights beacause Floyd is small here.

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        • wmute
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          #34
          1) You have to be much bigger than him.

          2) Or be a great fighter.

          Unfortunately we will only get a chance to see number 1, which I do not find as intriguing.

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          • Riptor
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            #35
            Originally posted by SkillspayBills
            It starts at the press conference. Talk about his kids and say you would stomp on his kid's testicles. Yes you have to go that low. Maybe getting Floyd mad and getting under his skin may get him off of his game.
            That is part of it too. Remember when Duran told Sugar Ray leonard that his wife was a whore and said all sorts of other things to him before their first fight? That is part of the key. (But not all of it) you have to make floyd so angry that by the time fight night comes he is partially off his game.

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            • The_Demon
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              #36
              Originally posted by Crazylegs77
              I was thinking about how all fighters follow Floyd around the ring. None have had significant success.. I think the next fighter to face him should try a new tactic.

              Maybe let Floyd come in and try to counter.


              1) Do not attack Floyd
              2) Do not move foward......let him make the fight on his own
              3) keep moving away
              4) Only engage Floyd after he comes in and attack using counters or time him when he comes in


              Any other ideas?
              heres one idea-dont worry about how 2 fight a guy that is RETIRED

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              • yesiamhandsome
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                #37
                Dont fight him cause if you do youll surely get beat.

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                • Riptor
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by british_fan
                  heres one idea-dont worry about how 2 fight a guy that is RETIRED

                  Retired just like the first time right? (Enough money and Floyd will step back into the ring.) How many times did Leonard Retire only to un-retire again? If a big enough fight comes by Floyd could be enticed to come back. (or let me re-phrase that, a fight that he calculates is easy enough for a huge sum of money against an opponent who is supposed to be amazing but in reality is not. (Remember "if it don't make dollars it don't make sense" according to Floyd)

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                  • BadNewz
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                    #39
                    Unless you're somewhere close to Floyd's level athletically, strategy won't matter because you won't have any shot no matter what you try.

                    That's why it's a joke to say Floyd should fight guys like Pacquiao or Cotto or Marquez or Margarito. Floyd beats every one of them 100 out of 100 times cuz they just don't have the talent or athletic ability to keep up. The only boxer in the world with any hope against Floyd is Paul Williams. Maybe Andre Berto if he keeps improving.

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                    • andrewcuff
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                      #40
                      Floyd has several weakness which I talked about in a thread I made recently. Overcoming his physical skills isn't the biggest difficulty though, its fooling his boxing brain.

                      He is very smart in the ring and has a Plan B, a Plan C etc. You need discipline and focus, for every minute of every round, which I think is the most difficult aspect of beating the man.

                      For example, Oscar provided part of the blueprint for beating him, but stopping throwing his jab, which allowed Floyd to win several easy rounds against him.

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