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  • THe TRiNiTY
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    ..UNDERRATED/OVERRATED: Each Division...

    Simple. I'll name the most underrated/overrated person in each division. You all can follow with your own list.

    UNDERRATED = LEFT/OVERRATED = RIGHT
    STRAWWEIGHTS: Roman Gonzalez (Still young) / Eagle Kyowa (Fading)
    JR. FLYWEIGHTS: Edgar Sosa (He's good, could be GREAT) / Edgar Sosa (He's GOOD, COULD be great)
    FLYWEIGHTS: Nonito Donaire (Get's credit, still widely ignored) / Vic Darchinyan (One-dimensional fighter)
    JR. BANTAMWEIGHTS: Martin Castillo (See; Nonito Donaire) / Jorge Arce (See; Vic Darchinyan)
    BANTAMWEIGHTS: Jhonny Gonzalez (Kind of his fault, he loses some big fights) / Gerry Penalosa (He's old, still gets his "prime credit")
    JR. FEATHERWEIGHTS: Rey Bautista (He's still a decent fighter) / Celestino Caballero (Just doesn't do anything OVERTLY impressive to me)
    FEATHERWEIGHTS: Jorge Linares (Still deserves more exposure/credit) / Chris John (He's decent, but hasn't faced many names. Barring his "win" over Marquez)
    JR. LIGHTWEIGHTS: Jorge Barrios (He might not be GREAT, but he's GREAT TO WATCH) / Edwin Valero (Once he fights someone with a pulse, he loses)
    LIGHTWEIGHTS: Jose Santa Cruz/Zahir Raheem (Both don't get looked at much when mentioning Lightweights) / Joel Casamayor/David Diaz (One was great and is fading fast, it seems. The other just isn't THAT impressive)
    JR. WELTERWEIGHTS: Junior Witter (Most have him top 10, but still overlook him) / Kendall Holt (He's known for ONE KO, that essentially was repeated TO HIM, in his next fight)
    WELTERWEIGHTS: Joshua Clottey (He's also a durable fighter) / Paul Williams(Very good fighter, gets praised by some like he's the second coming)
    JR. MIDDLEWEIGHTS: Vernon Forrest (I mean, in the grand scheme of things, p4p) / Travis Simms (He's just never TRULY impressed me)
    MIDDLEWEIGHTS: Felix Sturm (Aside from his last fight, he's looked good a lot, recently) / Arthur Abraham (He still has something to prove to me)
    SUPER MIDDLEWEIGHTS: Edison Miranda (People seem to think that he's completely fallen off, I disagree) / Carl Froch (Someone tell me what he's done, honestly)
    LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHTS: Chad Dawson (He could get a BIT more exposure, for such a GREAT talent) / Zsolt Erdei (Considering, according to this site, he's CHAMPION?)
    CRUISERWEIGHTS: Steve Cunningham (I even picked him over Marco Huck, as an underdog, wondering why?) / Darnell Wilson (Technically, punching hard isn't exactly a SKILL)
    HEAVYWEIGHTS: Alexander Povetkin (We'll see if this is right or wrong against Chambers) / Oleg Maskaev (Sorry, I'm not impressed)

    Not trying to sound like a hater or anything like that. Just calling it like I see it.

    Your take, or your own ideas. Please.
  • eazy_mas
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    well you got some guys wrong.

    ask anyone who is Celestine Cabbellero nobody knows even though he fought a guy in his backyard and won. DeLeon is overrated alot in that division

    Holt is underrated he won many guy that became champion or good contender. I would go for Ricarod Torres he is overrated. for only one KO lost in his career that could take him long time for people to release how great he is.

    Jorge Barios is abit overrated from his fight of Frietas long time ago.

    at WW division underrated is Cintron people still think he is that same guy he fought Margarito, Margarito was underrated now he is the most overrated guy even after he lost to Paul Williams people still think he is the most feared person in boxing, KOing Golding something will make you in the list of p4p greatest

    David Diaz is okay he is not overrated but he is going to lose soon. He won over Santa Cruz with heart and determination if anyone see the fight. He exposed abit Santa Cruz weaknest attacked to the body intell his defense was down and then went for the kill.

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      at MW Pavilk is abit overrated. Yes he got some impressive win but people wanna make him like he is GOAT of the MW division he still got long way to go

      at LW Amir Khan just started his career and people expect him to go beat Juan Diaz and then go up in weigh and beat Witter and Hatton at the same night then go for Mayweather next week at 147. For God's Sake the guy just started his career you cant tell what he capable of just time will tell but he is not the next Mayweather or anything but I could see him in the p4p list few years from now
      Last edited by eazy_mas; 01-05-2008, 04:40 AM.

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        Originally posted by eazy_mas
        well you got some guys wrong.

        ask anyone who is Celestine Cabbellero nobody knows even though he fought a guy in his backyard and won. DeLeon is overrated alot in that division

        Holt is underrated he won many guy that became champion or good contender. I would go for Ricarod Torres he is overrated. for only one KO lost in his career that could take him long time for people to release how great he is.

        Jorge Barios is abit overrated from his fight of Frietas long time ago.

        at WW division underrated is Cintron people still think he is that same guy he fought Margarito, Margarito was underrated now he is the most overrated guy even after he lost to Paul Williams people still think he is the most feared person in boxing, KOing Golding something will make you in the list of p4p greatest

        David Diaz is okay he is not overrated but he is going to lose soon. He won over Santa Cruz with heart and determination if anyone see the fight. He exposed abit Santa Cruz weaknest attacked to the body intell his defense was down and then went for the kill.
        Caballero is still top 5 in the division, according to The Ring. That's the point.

        I just don't think Holt is that impressive, to be honest. Barrios, I agree is a borderline choice for the spot.

        Cintron was struggling with a guy that Alfonzo Gomez had an easier time with. Gomez beat him in his 4th bout. (Lost to him, but that's still not THAT impressive) He's not a bad fighter, but he's rated ABOUT where he should be.

        David Diaz is overrated in the sense that he's high in The Ring rankings, mentioned in all these big fights, and I don't believe he deserves it.

        Not trying to argue or anything, but I'm just defending/explaining my choices.

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        • FIGHTING_FLIP
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          #5
          over rated = Antonio Margarito
          under rated= Joshua Clottey

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          • CraigM
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            #6
            Originally posted by eazy_mas

            at LW Amir Khan just started his career and people expect him to go beat Juan Diaz and then go up in weigh and beat Witter and Hatton at the same night then go for Mayweather next week at 147. For God's Sake the guy just started his career you cant tell what he capable of just time will tell but he is not the next Mayweather or anything but I could see him in the p4p list few years from now
            To be fair, not many actual boxing fans believe this.

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            • eazy_mas
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              #7
              Originally posted by C-Drone
              Caballero is still top 5 in the division, according to The Ring. That's the point.

              I just don't think Holt is that impressive, to be honest. Barrios, I agree is a borderline choice for the spot.

              Cintron was struggling with a guy that Alfonzo Gomez had an easier time with. Gomez beat him in his 4th bout. (Lost to him, but that's still not THAT impressive) He's not a bad fighter, but he's rated ABOUT where he should be.

              David Diaz is overrated in the sense that he's high in The Ring rankings, mentioned in all these big fights, and I don't believe he deserves it.

              Not trying to argue or anything, but I'm just defending/explaining my choices.
              Cabbellero is underrated. even though he may not have the style to please everybody but he still went a long way to get his title. He gave DeLeon his first L in a place like the 2nd Mexicio. It pretty hard to go around the world and fight.

              Holt is a good fighter who had a bad day against Davis. it happen in every sport but the problem is in boxing you most likly to fight a person once. You have to see his who resuma instead of one night. I think Holt is underrated by many for the Davis.

              Cintron has a broken hand. it hard to fight with a broken jaw imagine if you have broken hand and you keep using it. give him benefit of the doubt but people still he is the same guy who was KOed by Margarito. Alfonso Gomes is a pretty good boxer he is abit underrated.

              David Diaz is a good fight, if by Ring Magazine standard he is rated abit high then it okay he won a pretty dare good fighter Santa Cruz with heart and soul he is like the Gatti of the division. but I know what you mean he is beatable so I would rate him that high.

              Originally posted by CraigM
              To be fair, not many actual boxing fans believe this.
              I know they have hight expectation of thing and judge thing pretty quick.

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              • British Pitbull
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                #8
                Sort your **** thread out you ****, my eyes can handle your total **** up in caps all jumbled together, PRICK.

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                • Scott9945
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                  Originally posted by British Pitbull
                  Sort your **** thread out you ****, my eyes can handle your total **** up in caps all jumbled together, PRICK.
                  It sounds like that's your problem. I thought is was a good post.

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                  • British Pitbull
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Scott9945
                    It sounds like that's your problem. I thought is was a good post.
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