Juan Manuel Lopez: "Ponce De Leon is Running"

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  • Parody
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    #21
    Originally posted by gerardofpr
    Last time against that Mexican kid he looked beatable, not the same fighter I saw against Ponce.
    Yeah he has seriously improved before when he was flawed. Totally changed fighter, he liked to slug it out before but now he uses his height well and is much more of a boxer. The fight with Ponce was totally different, he changed his style.

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      #22
      Originally posted by Parody
      True, I dont know how that ****er makes weight?

      He is a freak for 5'11 fighting at super bantam...who do you think can beat him? I think he will use his height advantage and give a lot of people trouble like he did with ponce, most of these guys are 5'4 5'5 and 5'6 at most, this guy is 5'11
      Vazquez and Marquez would both beat him by boxing him...

      I'd give De Leon a small chance of beating him in a close fight...

      hes not really that great, hes being overrated by some people

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        #23
        Originally posted by Parody
        Yeah he uses the height well too.
        juan manuel lopez is 5'8 but he's a contender.

        vazquez,marquez,and de leon are all 5'5

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          #24
          Originally posted by xcaret
          Vazquez and Marquez would both beat him by boxing him...

          I'd give De Leon a small chance of beating him in a close fight...

          hes not really that great, hes being overrated by some people
          He is a very good boxer, but he is more underrated than anything, I have hardly seen even one person talk about him on these forums. He also called out De Leon for a Unification I read some article on a website, ill try to post it if i can find it.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Parody
            Asian who do you think is the best super bantamweight? I dont think anyone can beat Celestino Caballero at super bantamweight, I would pick him over Marquez and Vasquez as well...The guy is a freak, already beat De Leon handily.
            Marquez and Vasquez make up the class of the division, but they're at the end of their careers. They wouldn't fight a guy like Caballero, who is young and makes a frustrating fight for anyone. Ask De Leon.

            Ponce is probably its top draw because of his ****er style. He lost to Caballero because Caballero is just a tough, ugly fight for anyone in the division. Celestino just knows how to beat guys like Ponce, fighters who need very close quarters to be effective. Ponce wouldn't risk looking bad again against a guy like Caballero.

            Caballero is going to be tops in the division until he eventually loses a fight he should've won. But it won't be against Ponce, whom GBP has invested a lot of money in. Probably wont see Ponce in with any slick, young boxers for awhile, either.

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              #26
              Originally posted by Asian Sensation
              Marquez and Vasquez make up the class of the division, but they're at the end of their careers. They wouldn't fight a guy like Caballero, who is young and makes a frustrating fight for anyone. Ask De Leon.

              Ponce is probably its top draw because of his ****er style. He lost to Caballero because Caballero is just a tough, ugly fight for anyone in the division. Celestino just knows how to beat guys like Ponce, fighters who need very close quarters to be effective. Ponce wouldn't risk looking bad again against a guy like Caballero.

              Caballero is going to be tops in the division until he eventually loses a fight he should've won. But it won't be against Ponce, whom GBP has invested a lot of money in. Probably wont see Ponce in with any slick, young boxers for awhile, either.

              marquez is not vazquez vazquez just turned 29 he got some goof 4 years in boxing.

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                #27
                Originally posted by NAPO
                marquez is not vazquez vazquez just turned 29 he got some goof 4 years in boxing.
                Yeah but he has had wars with Larios, Gonzales and Marquez. Those type of fights wear you down as a fighter

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                  #28
                  vasquez could defeat caballero the guy is relentless and he did well against the taller jhonny gonzales

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Asian Sensation
                    Marquez and Vasquez make up the class of the division, but they're at the end of their careers. They wouldn't fight a guy like Caballero, who is young and makes a frustrating fight for anyone. Ask De Leon.

                    Ponce is probably its top draw because of his ****er style. He lost to Caballero because Caballero is just a tough, ugly fight for anyone in the division. Celestino just knows how to beat guys like Ponce, fighters who need very close quarters to be effective. Ponce wouldn't risk looking bad again against a guy like Caballero.

                    Caballero is going to be tops in the division until he eventually loses a fight he should've won. But it won't be against Ponce, whom GBP has invested a lot of money in. Probably wont see Ponce in with any slick, young boxers for awhile, either.
                    ur underrating de leon hes not some senseless brawler he outboxed penalosa and the prospect eduardo escobedo
                    i say from all the mexican current champions hes the most one dimensional but he can definetly box

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by elgranluchadore
                      vasquez could defeat caballero the guy is relentless and he did well against the taller jhonny gonzales
                      Gonzales was 5'7, Caballero is 5'11, and Gonzales was out of his prime still managed to knock vasques down twice, almost stop him but vasques showed great heart and cameback as a warrior, the thing is Gonzales brawls, Caballero is a slick counterpunching type boxer who uses his height well, who frustrates his opponents.

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