America isn't underrating England's fighters

[flat1985]

That's cuz English fighters suck, you all only have one, Joe Calzaghe, and he's about to be exposed.

He is not English you ******

[El Chicano]

He is not English you ******

English, Welsh, same difference

[sparked_85]

English, Welsh, same difference

American,Egyptian same difference.

[Ryn0]

English, Welsh, same difference

Calzaghe will destroy Hopkins and easily might I add. Haye is another fighter we got, Hatton isn't 100% gone yet, Witter is a threat at 140 etc.. Infact the US have 8 worlds champs (assuming your from the US) the UK have 8 as well but we have 2 unified champs you have 1.

[-Swizzy-]

So Calzaghe isnt top P4P yet the top 3 LHW's are? B-Hop is but shouldnt be, Johnsen isnt, Jones Jr is on some ppls list but shouldnt be, Dawson isnt, Tarver isnt... I dont think I need to go on naming names, theres not a single LHW who should still be top 5 P4P, so how does beating them mean that Calzaghe would be a top P4P fighter? He shouldnt even HAVE to step in weight to prove himself P4P. P4P#1, by its very definition, means that IF you were the same weight and size, you would beat anybody. Having beat every opponent put in front of him, surely Joe has a claim at the top 5?

find me a post where I said the top 3 LHW are the top P4P. Logic my friend. if calzaghe needs to fight the top LHW to be the top p4p, it doesn't mean the top lhw are the top p4p. basic logic. if bhop, tarver and dawson can beat calzaghe than calzaghe isn't a top 2-3 p4p. He isn't even top 10.

[Ryn0]

find me a post where I said the top 3 LHW are the top P4P. Logic my friend. if calzaghe needs to fight the top LHW to be the top p4p, it doesn't mean the top lhw are the top p4p. basic logic. if bhop, tarver and dawson can beat calzaghe than calzaghe isn't a top 2-3 p4p. He isn't even top 10.

I think if Dawson beat hopkins and Calzaghe it means relativly little consider both are older but still game it all depends on how Dawson turns out, will he be a legend or a bum, right now he looks to the be the former.

[PeROxiDE]

find me a post where I said the top 3 LHW are the top P4P. Logic my friend. if calzaghe needs to fight the top LHW to be the top p4p, it doesn't mean the top lhw are the top p4p. basic logic. if bhop, tarver and dawson can beat calzaghe than calzaghe isn't a top 2-3 p4p. He isn't even top 10.

Your "basic logic" is severely flawed. I can live with you saying Calzaghe isnt top P4P, thats your opinion. But when you say he has to beat "X" to be top P4P then "X" will have to be P4P also. P4P is done on overall achievements, not any one fighter you have faced. Its like saying your a world champion even though you havent beaten the world champion.

[British Pitbull]

Floyd mayweather senior looks like he got bashed with the ugly stick then got stamped on his deformed head and spat on, **** what that **** says.

[sparked_85]

Floyd mayweather senior looks like he got bashed with the ugly stick then got stamped on his deformed head and spat on, **** what that **** says.

definetely one of the ugliest men alive.

[-Swizzy-]

Your "basic logic" is severely flawed. I can live with you saying Calzaghe isnt top P4P, thats your opinion. But when you say he has to beat "X" to be top P4P then "X" will have to be P4P also. P4P is done on overall achievements, not any one fighter you have faced. Its like saying your a world champion even though you havent beaten the world champion.

my basic logic is in tact. yours isn't. alot of the top p4p fighters haven't beaten the top p4p fighters. I wrote "Calzaghe needs to beat the top LHW to be considered the top 2-3 p4p". you wrote "so you think the top 3 lhw are the top 3 p4p". do you see it? if not, than I can't help you any further.