Floyd offered the fight to Hatton when he was at 140, Hatton wanted 13 million for the fight and that wasnt going to happen, so dont blame Floyd.
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And THATS where ANY comparsion between Mayweather and Morrales ends.
I can't believe people actually think Pac would stand a chance against Matweather. Cause thats what you are implying with this ****** comparison.Comment
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I had to stop right there....Trust me guys, this isnt as long as it looks and its different then my normal threads. Just read a few lines and it will flow from there.
Seriously though how can you guys not like Floyd moving down? To me its by far the best thing for boxing. Ofcourse everyone wants to see Floyd-Cotto or Floyd-Williams but lets be real about it. Those probally arent great fights. Everyone wants to see them now and then after it happeneds everyone will say that there should be a rematch but no one will want to see it. The fact is that the WW's are too big for Floyd. They are. Im not saying he cant win because I think he can but there is a 90% chance that win or lose, the fight will be so boring that it could kill boxing. All those matchups would be hyped up so much and stink. Just look at Floyd's career. I always told people before the Hatton fight that they act like they only remember Floyd's last 2 fights. Before that he had 6 very exciting fights. Those last 2 were boring because the guys were so big. Then he fights Hatton and gets a KO. If he fought any of the big WW's right now then the fight will be just like the Oscar & Baldy fights. He cant win. By that I mean that he will either lose or win so boring that he will be ripped for it even though people know the guys are much bigger then him. All he will do is pop shot the whole fight most likely. All of you complain about that but you want to see it again?
I dont know whats wrong with you guys and Floyd's fights at the lower weights. I would love more then anything to see him fight guys like Diaz, Pac, JMM, Paulie, Campbell, or whoever. All those fights would be super exciting because he will go toe to toe. Floyd is not big so I think it is the right move but its still too risky to drop straight to LW. If I was his manager I would try to have 1 fight at 140 and then go down to LW. The only 2 people at 140 for him to fight are Paulie & Witter. I dont want to see him fight Paulie since he has said so many good things about Floyd but I would love to see Floyd go over to England to fight Witter. After he beats Witter then he can drop back down to LW. At LW some guys maybe scared to fight him but once he thows that money in there face I could see them jumping. Diaz is the guy. His team maybe worried about Floyd until they see that contract which on it will be a price that will be 10x more then anything Juan can make in his career. The LW's will also see that they come into there fights weighing more or the same as Floyd did against Witter. I bet if Floyd fights Diaz at LW then Juan will be the bigger man in the ring.
Once Floyd goes down, other guys will come up. You can tell that Guzman is one of those guys who arent scared of anyone. No one will fight him and Floyd will give him a huge pay day. That way Floyd Sr. can also get his big pay day and everyone would love that fight. Then Floyd can fight a guy like Soto. After that Pac will have had a couple of fights at LW and they will have a super fight. People will diss Floyd in the begining but once he starts signing these fights then everyone will fall in love with them because there still great fights and will be 10x more entertaining then seeing him fight the big WW's. The PPV's will be huge as Floyd will deliver super exciting fights all the time and drive MMA out of buisness. After that Floyd can move back to 140 for a Hatton rematch and then he may actually come to WW to fight Cotto for the last fight of his career as Cotto should have the division cleaned out by then. Also, dont forget that Floyd isnt the only guy in town. Think about how exciting the WW division will be without Floyd. Then everyone will stop gunning for him and start fighting eachother. That way we can have the big super exciting fights against guys there own size. Once Floyd leaves then guys like Cotto will definatly fight guys like Williams. Williams, Cotto, Cintron, Margarito, & Clottey will all fight eachoter. Even Berto will be in the mix by then.
I think this is great for boxing as there will be a ton of great matches and all the fights will be exciting. Even the people who dont like Floyd will have to admit that seeing him at the lower weights right now would be exciting. His fights would be so explosive. He wont be big guys. People have it in there mind that he will be beating up on little guys but its so untrue. He's the same as them but just so good that he can move up. Weight wise I bet these guys will be the same size and alot of them will be bigger. I think Floyd goes down in history by doing this. If he goes back and gets alot of wins then everyone will be calling him an All Time great at different weights. Dont forget that Floyd didnt fight hardly any at LW or 140 so he's just going back to catchup. Then we can really judge how he wouldve done against guys like Duran & Pryor. Please stop trying to make it sound like he is Cotto going down to LW. Floyd is a LW but he's just so crazy talented that he can move up. You guys seriously wouldnt love to see Floyd fight a Guzman, Pac, Diaz, Sotto, Witter, Paulie, Hatton at 140, JMM, Campbell, Casamayor, and David Diaz? What about Valero? He may be a star by then and is pretty big. Floyd might even see him. Floyd will be the most exciting guy in boxing at these weights and then the haters or guys like Calzaghe cant rip the way he fights. People have to realize that he will still be in his 2nd or 3rd weight class. They make it sound like he will be in his 1st beating up on guys moving up. Even going back down he will have moved up further then all the P4P guys. How can you say Floyd is beating up on little guys when these other guys are still at there 1st weight and are huge?Comment
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Hatton turned Floyd down when Floyd was at 140! Get it right!So then why didn't Floyd move down to fight Hatton? Thats right, he likes to take the easy fights like Hatton at 147, then when he cant dodge Cotto any more, OOPS SORRY COTTO, IM MOVING DOWN TO 140!
We all know that Floyd shouldn't be fighting at 147, but he has insisted on it, and claims to be the best, so he needs to man the **** up and fight the best. None of this moving down a weight bull****.
If he wanted to fight at 140, he should have moved down for the Hatton fight, and not claimed to be the best at 147 when he is dodging any legitimate contender like the plague.
****ing fight Miguel Cotto already, god damn.
Everyone knows that Floyd is going to pull anything he can to avoid fighting Cotto, and it is getting kind of irritating.
I wouldn't be surprised if Mayweather moves down to 140 to fight Pauly.
Fight Cotto, if you lose, say you arn't a WW, Ill accept that excuse, then you can move down and continue your domination Floyd. But dont be a ***** about it. Give the guy a ****ing shot.Comment
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good points dlt, but the only problem with him being more exciting at smaller weights, is that it's not 2005 anymore. the vibe with floyd and 140 isn't there anymore imo, of coutse, how would i know this, he hasn't moved down and fought yet, so it is mainly assumption on my part, bit i feel he will get criticized more for doing this. he needs to stay at 147 and beat cotto and i feel he would possibly stop cotto, an di also feel he would break williams' body down, so he gets more credit to balance out the criticism. he is the best, no doubt, and him fighting pacman would be big, but he would get criticized for being too big for pac, although oscar didn't get criticized for being too big for floyd, because floyd won and he gets hated on and floyed proves skills win fights. anyway, good points as usual, but even i want him to stay at 147 because i know he would beat cotto and williams.Comment
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I Agree. Mayweather is growing feathers.So then why didn't Floyd move down to fight Hatton? Thats right, he likes to take the easy fights like Hatton at 147, then when he cant dodge Cotto any more, OOPS SORRY COTTO, IM MOVING DOWN TO 140!
We all know that Floyd shouldn't be fighting at 147, but he has insisted on it, and claims to be the best, so he needs to man the **** up and fight the best. None of this moving down a weight bull****.
If he wanted to fight at 140, he should have moved down for the Hatton fight, and not claimed to be the best at 147 when he is dodging any legitimate contender like the plague.
****ing fight Miguel Cotto already, god damn.
Everyone knows that Floyd is going to pull anything he can to avoid fighting Cotto, and it is getting kind of irritating.
I wouldn't be surprised if Mayweather moves down to 140 to fight Pauly.
Fight Cotto, if you lose, say you arn't a WW, Ill accept that excuse, then you can move down and continue your domination Floyd. But dont be a ***** about it. Give the guy a ****ing shot.Comment
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It's obvious you know absolutley nothing about the situation. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.No. Hatton was never in the picture at all. The only thing Hatton said about Floyd was that he was boring when Max Kellerman asked him about Floyd.
Floyd was suppose to fight Mosley Cotto or Williams. Floyd decided to pick an option not on the table. Ricky Hatton.
For that, Floyd will always be a *****. The least he can do is make up for his *****dom and fight Miguel Cotto. Then he can do what ever the **** he wants, but the fact remains the Floyd has NEVER faced a legitmate contender in his career. All of his fights have been against Cherry picked Champions. Being a champion is about defending your belts against the best, not cherry picking champions in other weight classes.
I honestly don't expect Floyd to fight Cotto, or for that fact anyone that has a remote chance of beating him any time soon.
We all know he is not a natural welterweight, but he is not an incredibly small welterweight, he is bigger than Cotto and bigger than Mosley. You dont become and ATG by switching weight classes every time a challenge presents itself. And moving down to 140 AFTER making Hatton move up to 147 is probably the douchiest thing that any fighter has EVER done in boxing history.
Floyd is good, dont get me wrong, he is very good, but the guy is a prick and a *****. Always complaining about his hands, when he has only broken it once in a fight. Fragile Floyd isn't as fragile as he would like everyone to believe, the guy is just a drama queen and its irritating.Comment
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I'm not sold on that, actually. I think Floyd would go into pot-shot mode, hit and run, all fight so as not to get hurt. Cotto is much bigger, so it'd be similar to the De la Hoya fight in the way Floyd adapts to the size- but with Cotto being younger I wouldn't be surprised if he could bully Floyd against the ropes all night...Comment
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