Juiced?????????????

[Thread Stealer]

I'm sure he doesn't feel too bad about saying that knowing Tyson bit his ear off in a boxing match.

It's funny how Holyfield said he forgave Tyson for that, but hates Lennox Lewis because Lewis made comments about Holyfield's hypocrisy, a Christian with 1000 illegitimate babies.

He should just say, "I forgave Tyson because I beat him twice, I hate Lewis because he beat me twice"

[Benny Leonard]

Everybody is sadly suspect. HGH has no testing and you can clean many steroids out of your system before testing. It's a World-wide problem.

But don't be to quick to base it on the body of someone.

Another thing I've also noticed over the years is that people on steroids, tend to be for steroid use and think everybody else is as well. After all, it explains why others are better than them, bigger, stronger, faster, confident, etc.
And for those that aren't on steroids, many are against it without knowing everything, and again, like the steroid users, can believe that everybody is on them that is athletic...after all, that explains why they are good and you (the person not using and is genetically athletically pathetic, are not).



Some athletes can also turn to steroids at a certain point in their career. If it is to recover from injury, wear and tear, age, etc. even if there body was already at alpha-male status.

[Benny Leonard]

It's funny how Holyfield said he forgave Tyson for that, but hates Lennox Lewis because Lewis made comments about Holyfield's hypocrisy, a Christian with 1000 illegitimate babies.

He should just say, "I forgave Tyson because I beat him twice, I hate Lewis because he beat me twice"

Some seem to lean on "at what point" was Tyson on, if he was on...the same for many others like Roy, Lennox, Wlad, etc.

It would be interesting to know who said what to Holy, if they did at all.

Tyson was said to have been "medicated", not with steroids, but psychiatric medicine even back then, after Rooney, but I'm not completely sure. They mention this as one of the reasons he got his ass kicked against Douglas (besides not training) and his demeanor was docile. It would also serve as to why Tyson would then go on and off his meds. But again, not sure.

[Scott9945]

I think people would be shocked if they learned the truth about how high the percentage of juiced boxers was. That's why I wouldn't consider keeping someone out of the HOF because of it. It's like the argument about Barry Bonds. Sure he was juiced, but so were most of the pitchers he was hitting all those home runs off of. I can't prove it, but I believe that Holyfield, Tyson, Lewis, and both Klitschkos were users at one time or another. And that's just the tip of the iceberg.

[Benny Leonard]

I think people would be shocked if they learned the truth about how high the percentage of juiced boxers was. That's why I wouldn't consider keeping someone out of the HOF because of it. It's like the argument about Barry Bonds. Sure he was juiced, but so were most of the pitchers he was hitting all those home runs off of. I can't prove it, but I believe that Holyfield, Tyson, Lewis, and both Klitschkos were users at one time or another. And that's just the tip of the iceberg.

That's why I say everybody is suspect, even the little guys.