If Cotto is Better than Floyd, Let's let Cotto walk in Floyd's footsteps..!!

[Del Coqui]

Excuse Me?
by fighting a 36 years old and a never has been who lost his previous two important fights and was off for 1 year (minus a 1 round no contest)?

Compare with fighting a 34 years old (note I dont particularly appreciate this choice either, but what can you do), and unbeaten ring titlist.

Oh maybe throwing in Urkal evens the score?

Please...

I dont know about that. That 36 yr old never has been had Floyd fighting off of his back foot the first 5 rounds and even put him down.

[oldgringo]

Cotto took on a legitimate ex-champion in Bazan only 14 fights into his career. Roughly one and a half years later he wins his first title, beating the living daylights out of Kelson Pinto. In between these points in time he beats eventual title holders in N'dou and Maussa.

Cotto then proceeds to make 6 defenses of his WBO title, beating some of the very best fighters the division CURRENTLY has to offer in Paul Malignaggi, Randall Bailey and Ricardo Torres.

Upon Cotto's move to his second weight class, he beats a top unbeaten prospect in Carlos Quintana for his second world title. It's not the linear title, but Cotto gets a piece of the pie. He then goes on to beat a world class European champion (Urkal), the former lineal Welterweight champion (Judah), and a faded Hall of Fame caliber fighter (Mosley).

As it stands, I believe Cotto's last 11 fights have been title fights. Only two of his opponents have survived the distance in that stretch. Roughly 35% of his career to date have been title fights. If we assume he continues to win or he continues to stay at this pace, by the time he matches Mayweather's record of 39 fights, 48% of his activity would be involved with title fights. Cotto has beaten 9 current or former champions to date as well if that does it for you.

He IS following in Floyd's foot steps. As boxing fans, we should want Floyd and Cotto to fight. There is nothing to be afraid of. If Cotto loses, all of his fans will live happy lives. If Floyd loses, nobody here is going to die...and if you lose sleep over it then you need to re-evaluate life in general.

These are the two best fighters in their division and they are both in their prime. If Cotto is BETTER than Floyd, he'd beat him in the ring when this fight is eventually (hopefully) made. If Floyd is better, he'll beat Cotto and leave no doubt that he is the better man.

Cotto won't prove anything with respect to Floyd by beating De La Hoya. He'll only prove that he's capable of beating Oscar on a given night. Floyd is a different animal. It'll take these two fighting each other to see who is the better guy.

[2501]

You have proved nothing..!!
where is your proof..?

ummm, right here..

Examples:
The point is that
Floyd win vs. ODLH was better than
Cotto win vs. Mosley
Floyd 30 years old vs. ODLH 34 years and he was the Jr. Middle Weight Champion
Cotto 27 years vs. Shane Mosley 36 years and just a WW Contender...
(You never address that point)

I merely stated MY opinion on why I was more impressed with Cotto's win over Shane than floyd's over Oscar and I said this..

I guess I already knew what to expect

Obviously, I'm letting it be known that I knew it wouldnt be a competitive fight because Floyd is in his prime and Oscar wasnt. So what is so impressive about Floyd taking a belt from an over the hill, slower Oscar De La Hoya vs. Cotto fighting a still very quick and dangerous opponent in Shane Mosley who styles made for a better fight. Any person this board will tell you the same.

and here...

So then you say some **** like…..

Titles dont mean **** to the casual fan and honestly - 2501

I response with:

Why fight for Belts then...?
Why does everybody want Floyd to unify the titles then if titles don’t meaned ****..?
Why is strict importance giving to defending your title..? (man..)

Give me an example then. Tell me you're experience with a CASUAL fan where the fan is up to date with the belt situation and has either purchased a PPV event or ticket to a show for the sole reason of watching fighter work for a belt? You KNOW the causal fan goes to watch a fight and really doesnt care about what belts are involved. Prove me wrong here Quntel. Remember, we're talking about the CASUAL fan.

and right here..

what have I taken out of context these are your words….!!!

Really now

Because you expected Mayweather to win, therefore HIS WIN WASNT AS IMPRESSIVE...???
Wow....!!
In that case what would Floyd have to do to impress you...?
Because in any fight Floyd is in (at a reasonaBle weight) Floyd is going to be the favorite..
So using your logic Floyd can’t impress you no matter what he does because you know what to expect Floyd to do, and that is win....!!
It is good to know the truth finally comes out of you..!!!

Now, let us examine that quote right there. Because I said that I wasnt impressed with Mayweather's win with De La Hoya, you are implying that nothing that Floyd does can impress me? Right. So then basically, you are neglecting the fact that we are only talking about the DLH fight in regards to that aspect. No? Forgot the fact that I was impressed with his domination of Corrales and his vindication with Castillo, but you didnt know that did you because you already assume that im question Floyd's whole career no? Thats not groupie-ish behavior?

And you STILL havent addressed my question. Its ok though man.

It is good to know the truth finally comes out of you..!!!

[wmute]

I dont know about that. That 36 yr old never has been had Floyd fighting off of his back foot the first 5 rounds and even put him down.

Ahem, what was Cotto doing after the 36 year old hurt him? oh he was defensive for 3 rounds.

What's worse? glove on the canvas while off balance or actually being hurt?

There is a reason why Mayweather is fighter of the year and Cotto is not

[Del Coqui]

Cotto took on a legitimate ex-champion in Bazan only 14 fights into his career. Roughly one and a half years later he wins his first title, beating the living daylights out of Kelson Pinto. In between these points in time he beats eventual title holders in N'dou and Maussa.

Cotto then proceeds to make 6 defenses of his WBO title, beating some of the very best fighters the division CURRENTLY has to offer in Paul Malignaggi, Randall Bailey and Ricardo Torres.

Upon Cotto's move to his second weight class, he beats a top unbeaten prospect in Carlos Quintana for his second world title. It's not the linear title, but Cotto gets a piece of the pie. He then goes on to beat a world class European champion (Urkal), the former lineal Welterweight champion (Judah), and a faded Hall of Fame caliber fighter (Mosley).

As it stands, I believe Cotto's last 11 fights have been title fights. Only two of his opponents have survived the distance in that stretch. Roughly 35% of his career to date have been title fights. If we assume he continues to win or he continues to stay at this pace, by the time he matches Mayweather's record of 39 fights, 48% of his activity would be involved with title fights. Cotto has beaten 9 current or former champions to date as well if that does it for you.

He IS following in Floyd's foot steps. As boxing fans, we should want Floyd and Cotto to fight. There is nothing to be afraid of. If Cotto loses, all of his fans will live happy lives. If Floyd loses, nobody here is going to die...and if you lose sleep over it then you need to re-evaluate life in general.

These are the two best fighters in their division and they are both in their prime. If Cotto is BETTER than Floyd, he'd beat him in the ring when this fight is eventually (hopefully) made. If Floyd is better, he'll beat Cotto and leave no doubt that he is the better man.

Cotto won't prove anything with respect to Floyd by beating De La Hoya. He'll only prove that he's capable of beating Oscar on a given night. Floyd is a different animal. It'll take these two fighting each other to see who is the better guy.

Good post Gringo.

[wmute]

Cotto took on a legitimate ex-champion in Bazan only 14 fights into his career. Roughly one and a half years later he wins his first title, beating the living daylights out of Kelson Pinto. In between these points in time he beats eventual title holders in N'dou and Maussa.

Cotto then proceeds to make 6 defenses of his WBO title, beating some of the very best fighters the division CURRENTLY has to offer in Paul Malignaggi, Randall Bailey and Ricardo Torres.

Upon Cotto's move to his second weight class, he beats a top unbeaten prospect in Carlos Quintana for his second world title. It's not the linear title, but Cotto gets a piece of the pie. He then goes on to beat a world class European champion (Urkal), the former lineal Welterweight champion (Judah), and a faded Hall of Fame caliber fighter (Mosley).

As it stands, I believe Cotto's last 11 fights have been title fights. Only two of his opponents have survived the distance in that stretch. Roughly 35% of his career to date have been title fights. If we assume he continues to win or he continues to stay at this pace, by the time he matches Mayweather's record of 39 fights, 48% of his activity would be involved with title fights. Cotto has beaten 9 current or former champions to date as well if that does it for you.

He IS following in Floyd's foot steps. As boxing fans, we should want Floyd and Cotto to fight. There is nothing to be afraid of. If Cotto loses, all of his fans will live happy lives. If Floyd loses, nobody here is going to die...and if you lose sleep over it then you need to re-evaluate life in general.

These are the two best fighters in their division and they are both in their prime. If Cotto is BETTER than Floyd, he'd beat him in the ring when this fight is eventually (hopefully) made. If Floyd is better, he'll beat Cotto and leave no doubt that he is the better man.

Cotto won't prove anything with respect to Floyd by beating De La Hoya. He'll only prove that he's capable of beating Oscar on a given night. Floyd is a different animal. It'll take these two fighting each other to see who is the better guy.

Nice one, OG!

I want to point out how Cotto beating Oscar will prove something with respect to Floyd, something very important and beloved to Floyd... $$$

And with this one I am really going to bed.

[Del Coqui]

Ahem, what was Cotto doing after the 36 year old hurt him? oh he was defensive for 3 rounds.

What's worse? glove on the canvas while off balance or actually being hurt?

There is a reason why Mayweather is fighter of the year and Cotto is not

Maybe if Cotto would've fought off of his back foot he would've never gotten hurt? Definitely glove on the canvas, that's called a knock down buddy, don't recall seeing PBF touch the canvas before, somehow that old never has been managed to do it.

And yes, there is a reason why PBF is fighter of the year, but that's not it.

[Horus]

you have not proved anything...!! your whole post was nonsense

Obviously, I'm letting it be known that I knew it wouldnt be a competitive fight because Floyd is in his prime and Oscar wasnt- 2501

they are 4 years apart..
oscar had all the advanages
oscar pick the judges
the ref
the ring
the gloves
the location
the weight
and oscar is world class fighter with a Title at the time of the fight...!!!

come on now...!!
I can site at least 20 more example why you should be impress get out of here with that...!!!


you saying owned but nobody agrees with you...lol


ok 2501 accept that you belong to me..!!!

[SkillspayBills]

Nice one, OG!

I want to point out how Cotto beating Oscar will prove something with respect to Floyd, something very important and beloved to Floyd... $$$

And with this one I am really going to bed.

lol you have said this about 6 times my friend. GET YOUR ASS TO BED.

[Jim Jeffries]

Maybe if Cotto would've fought off of his back foot he would've never gotten hurt? Definitely glove on the canvas, that's called a knock down buddy, don't recall seeing PBF touch the canvas before, somehow that old never has been managed to do it.

And yes, there is a reason why PBF is fighter of the year, but that's not it.

I guess you missed the second round of the Judah fight.