Taylor Can't beat Pavlik

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  • TopDawg
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    #21
    This is boxing and anything can happen. I think it all depends on how Jermain comes back after suffering his first loss, some fighters take it worse than others so only time will tell, but I do believe that Jermain will do bettr under Ozzel's toolage now becuase he is with a guy who has been with him from the beggining so I don't see any trust issues there as I saw when Jermain was with Manny.

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    • deuce_drop
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      #22
      this is a tough tough fight for taylor, not only is his chin in question but his heart too. i'm not saying he doesn't have heart, i'm saying that if he finds himself in trouble, what is to say that he won't stay down on the canvas again and not try and get up? although he was thoroughly beaten last time and the ref wasn't going let him get up, but taylor had all his fire beaten out of him. if he finds himself in the same kind of trouble he's going to have to reach down and pull himself out and from what he showed in the last fight, it's going to be harder than ever for him to do that.
      taylor is going to go into the ring confident, but that is only going to be on the surface, because deep down he knows that pavlik can take whatever he throws at him and he couldn't take what pavlik gave to him. taylor is going to be in the ring very cautious, like he should be, but it's going to play hard on his mind, the fear of getting hurt or stunned by pavlik again and ultimately stopped is going to dictate his actions, unless he finds out a way to dominate, which is harder than ever for him to do at this point, and i think is impossible for taylor to do against pavlik.
      taylor can win this fight, especially if the judging is the same, because the scoring of their last fight was a down right outrage if you ask me or anyone else with a brain, but that has been the scene for taylor his whole career, favorable scoring. he's gotta love being an HBO fighter, under the umbrella of dibella, where the only way dibella's fighters are going to lose is if they get stopped, because **** is fixed with him and HBO, at least from my observance. but the scoring of the first taylor-pavlik fight was a damn joke, at the very least that fight should have been scored even up until the stoppage, having taylor winning that fight is either paid off judging or extreme taylor **** riding. now, it was a great fight, tons of action and lots of drama, but in no way shape or form was taylor running away with it as the scoring would've suggested, pure ****ing crap was that official scoring of the fight.
      but back to the issue at hand, it's going to be a vertical climb for taylor who is going to have sweaty hands the whole time, rightfully so, this is a huge mountain for taylor to have to hump over, can he do it? it's possible, especially if the judging goes the same way, can he do it is another question, pavlik i think has focus like no other and won't overlook taylor because he knocked him out, i think pavlik remembers the taylor that had him in trouble in the second round, and has respect for taylor, taylor had no respect for pavlik going into the fight the first time, now that pavlik has taylors respect, i think taylor is going to keep his distance and not try and bomb it out with pavlik.
      the thing is, pavlik will pressure taylor until taylor slows down and starts standing in front of pavlik again and we will see the same outcome with pavlik stopping taylor again, unless taylors' wind and stamina is at an all time high and he can avoid getting into a shoot out. which i doubt.
      pavlik stops taylor before the 10th round..........................

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      • Run
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        #23
        Originally posted by c'monmang'
        I prediceted a mid to late rounds KO from Pavlik. Taylor was backed up by smaller guys like Winky and Ouma and I KNEW Taylor would get backed by Kelly,. retreat to a corner (like he always does) and get KO'd. Not a very thard fight to pick.
        Well regardless.

        Pavlik took the flush punches from Miranda, and yet while wobbled was able to stand up to them. Taylor showed that despite Pavlik having an excellent chin.......he can hurt him with punches in numbers.

        Pavik is no defensive specialist, he's really never had to be. But the fact is, that Taylor is still a two or three punch combination away from totally changing the complexity of the second fight. Sure Pavlik is the one who showed that when he's coming straight forward behind the right hand........Taylor had trouble because he was moving straight back.

        But if he blitzes Pavlik and fights extremely aggressive.......anything can happen and the outcome could end up the opposite of the first fight.



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        • Run
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          #24
          Originally posted by kayjay
          I don't think he was close to being KO's. But I agree Taylor has the ability to knock him out.

          Taylor didn't remain composed with Pavlik hurt. Compare the second round to the seventh and you see the difference between bad finishing and superb finishing.

          But if it goes to cards I think Taylor edges it
          The way Pavlik fumbled around after he stood up might have influenced a ref to stop the fight. He was completely out on his feet.

          And I think Taylor gassed himself out by throwing those ridiculous wild swinging punches immediately and in the round after he had Pavlik hurt.

          That was also like you say a poor job of finishing.



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          • Newyorkknicks07
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            #25
            I don't think Pavlik will win. Don't forget that Taylor was up on the scorecards and had already knocked Pavlik down before Pavlik hit him with a lucky shot and he got TKO'd. I don't think Pavlik has what it takes to pull off another win. It'll be a good fight.

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            • C'MONMANG'
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              #26
              Originally posted by Newyorkknicks07
              I don't think Pavlik will win. Don't forget that Taylor was up on the scorecards and had already knocked Pavlik down before Pavlik hit him with a lucky shot and he got TKO'd. I don't think Pavlik has what it takes to pull off another win. It'll be a good fight.

              LMAO....

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              • deuce_drop
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                #27
                Originally posted by Newyorkknicks07
                I don't think Pavlik will win. Don't forget that Taylor was up on the scorecards and had already knocked Pavlik down before Pavlik hit him with a lucky shot and he got TKO'd. I don't think Pavlik has what it takes to pull off another win. It'll be a good fight.
                are you selling what you are smoking???? because that must be some powerful stuff you're inhaling?????? that or you're high on glue?
                haha. merry day after christmas.....

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