Muhammad Ali vs Tommy Hearns?

[Sweet Pete]

According to a certain poster here, Tommy was impossible to outbox, and all knowledgable fans like him know that if you're hard to outbox at one weight, you're hard to outbox at any weight, which is why Floyd was hard to outbox from 130 to 154. So according to him, Hearns outboxes Ali if Ali opts to box with him. At least that's what he and the "knowledgable boxing fans" believe.

What say you?

Also, James Toney would've won a Wide decision or KO'd Jones had he been in shape, according to those who can analyze boxing like this poster, because Toney did so well when out of shape in the first fight of course. He countered Jones at will and worked a perfect gameplan, he just couldn't keep it up because he was out of shape. I didn't see it, but apparently I can't analyze boxing.

Again, what say you?

[Scott9945]

According to a certain poster here, Tommy was impossible to outbox, and all knowledgable fans like him know that if you're hard to outbox at one weight, you're hard to outbox at any weight, which is why Floyd was hard to outbox from 130 to 154. So according to him, Hearns outboxes Ali if Ali opts to box with him. At least that's what he and the "knowledgable boxing fans" believe.

What say you?

Also, James Toney would've won a Wide decision or KO'd Jones had he been in shape, according to those who can analyze boxing like this poster, because Toney did so well when out of shape in the first fight of course. He countered Jones at will and worked a perfect gameplan, he just couldn't keep it up because he was out of shape. I didn't see it, but apparently I can't analyze boxing.

Again, what say you?

Is it Christmas or April Fools Day? Hearns would fold up like a house of cards as soon as he caught a solid right cross from Ali.

[Sweet Pete]

Is it Christmas or April Fools Day? Hearns would fold up like a house of cards as soon as he caught a solid right cross from Ali.

According to this poster and all those who know boxing(as there are so many) you had to pressure Hearns and assault him to beat him. Nobody at any weight could outbox him, because according to him, if you're hard to outbox at one weight, you're hard to outbox at any weight. Lopez was damn near impossible to outbox at 105, so he'd probably make a good match for Hearns, according to those "in the know" anyway.

[slicksouthpaw16]

According to a certain poster here, Tommy was impossible to outbox, and all knowledgable fans like him know that if you're hard to outbox at one weight, you're hard to outbox at any weight, which is why Floyd was hard to outbox from 130 to 154. So according to him, Hearns outboxes Ali if Ali opts to box with him. At least that's what he and the "knowledgable boxing fans" believe.

What say you?

Also, James Toney would've won a Wide decision or KO'd Jones had he been in shape, according to those who can analyze boxing like this poster, because Toney did so well when out of shape in the first fight of course. He countered Jones at will and worked a perfect gameplan, he just couldn't keep it up because he was out of shape. I didn't see it, but apparently I can't analyze boxing.

Again, what say you?

According to this poster and all those who know boxing(as there are so many) you had to pressure Hearns and assault him to beat him. Nobody at any weight could outbox him, because according to him, if you're hard to outbox at one weight, you're hard to outbox at any weight. Lopez was damn near impossible to outbox at 105, so he'd probably make a good match for Hearns, according to those "in the know" anyway.

where did i say that Hearns would out box Ali? i said that Roy would not out box Hearns. and yes Toney would have beaten Roy if he did't weight in at 214 2 weeks before the fight. your point?

[Sweet Pete]

where did i say that Hearns would out box Ali? i said that Roy would not out box Hearns? and yes Toney would have beaten Roy if he did't weight in at 214 2 weeks before the fight. your point?

I asked if Hearns outboxes Ali because he was impossible to outbox, and you said that if you're hard to outbox at one weight, you're hard to outbox at any weight, because boxing doesn't have anything to do with size. You're gonna retract it now? If that's the case we'll make some changes to our debate in the other thread, and you'll concede that I won.

[Scott9945]

According to this poster and all those who know boxing(as there are so many) you had to pressure Hearns and assault him to beat him. Nobody at any weight could outbox him, because according to him, if you're hard to outbox at one weight, you're hard to outbox at any weight. Lopez was damn near impossible to outbox at 105, so he'd probably make a good match for Hearns, according to those "in the know" anyway.

It quickly becomes a moot point when the smaller guy collapses from the tremendous size and strength difference. We're talking about an extremely physical spot, not a chess game. You can't outbox someone when they can hit you at will and seriously hurt you with every punch.

[slicksouthpaw16]

I asked if Hearns outboxes Ali because he was impossible to outbox, and you said that if you're hard to outbox at one weight, you're hard to outbox at any weight, because boxing doesn't have anything to do with size. You're gonna retract it now? If that's the case we'll make some changes to our debate in the other thread, and you'll concede that I won.

Nah thats not what i meant and you are getting my words twisted. and you didn't win nothing..lol! you was even about to quit at one point so.....

[Sweet Pete]

It quickly becomes a moot point when the smaller guy collapses from the tremendous size and strength difference. We're talking about an extremely physical spot, not a chess game. You can't outbox someone when they can hit you at will and seriously hurt you with every punch.

Clearly you're not "in the know".

[Sweet Pete]

Nah thats not what i meant and you are getting my words twisted. and you didn't win nothing..lol! you was even about to quit at one point so.....

If someone said "You're a dummy, I'm right and you're wrong" after everything you said, and you eventually just decided to let it go, did they win, or are you just not wasting your time?

Also, explain what you meant if that is not it.

[Scott9945]

Clearly you're not "in the know".

Then I intend to keep it that way.