Arum: "Mayweather Will Never Fight Cotto"

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  • Migs
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    #81
    Originally posted by beauty
    Awww, calm down. I thought it was funny. Stop making that deeper than what it really is.
    Sorry....I got carried away.

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    • guzi815
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      #82
      As for me, not once said anything negative about Mayweather, just "WHO HE NEEDS TO FIGHT" to be an ATG. The only ones left on my list...

      1) WBA CHAMP Miguel Cotto
      2) Antonio Margarito
      3) IBF Champ Kermit Cintron
      4) WBO Champ Paul Williams

      Beat All, and convincingly, And Floyd Mayweather joins Ray Leonard, Roberto Duran as an All Time Great. If Mayweather retire's, or not clean out the division, it will raise some serious questions.

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      • Njord777
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        #83
        I need to ask you guys a serious question; can't you be an all time great boxer without being a welterweight or heavier? Are guys like Barrera, Morales, Pacquaio, all the Diaz boys- are they doomed to never be anything historically unless they move up to 147?

        I ask because Floyd Mayweather is currently a welterweight. Any of us with intelligence know, though, that he is by no means of a natural weight to **** with the other boys at 147. You can be the best boxer in the world without being the best welterweight in the world.

        Every person who wants to suggest Floyd is on the cusp of immortality in the boxing annuls refuses to even entertain the idea that its time for Floyd to move back to a lower weight where he can perform at a higher level. To let the little men like Juan Diaz, Katsidis and Pacquiao get as much momentum as, say, a Miguel Cotto and fight one of them.

        Am I saying Floyd is going to move down? No. All I am suggesting is that perhaps Mayweather knows Cotto is too big for him. I'm just hinting at the fact that, yes, the bigger names are at welterweight right now and we always want to see our biggest star in the biggest fight possible.

        Perhaps, in this case though, what's best for Floyd Mayweather and what's best for boxing aren't the same thing? Floyd is a little fish who outmaneuvers the big guys with his skill. But eventually he's going to find a man across the ring that just is too big for him. He looked amazing against Hatton because Hatton is a smaller man.

        If Floyd, hypothetically, beat Pacquiao or Marquez, Juan Diaz, David Diaz, etc. I'd consider him amazing. Will he drop that far down again? Probably not. Could he still make that weight? I think he could do catch-weight fights with those boxers listed.

        Point: Cotto is huge and Floyd is small. Maybe Arum's right. Maybe Floyd never will fight Miguel; maybe he knows that he's an amazing boxer but just not meant to take on one of the kings of welterweight.

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        • Allucard
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          #84
          Floyd can't possibly fight all those guys. The man is gonna be 31 this year and these fights take time to make. Floyd knows he is running out of time. It will be much better for Mayweather productions if he stays undefeated. He prolly will. Even if today people say he needs to fight him and him and him, people dont grasp that has been all Mayweather have done in the past 20 years! Someday you need to retire and i don't hear people saying Marciano should have fought him or him and we all know he didn't fight the upcoming stars. Maybe, just maybe Floyd fights once more, after his vacations but after 20years you'd be tired of boxing.

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          • Addison
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            #85
            Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP
            "He's afraid to lose," promoter Bob Arum, quoted by the Arizona Republic, regarding WBC welterweight champion Floyd Mayweather Jr. (39-0, 25KOs). [details]
            This is where Arum is just talking out of his ass. He's been saying it for awhile now but that doesn't fool me. Cotto gives distance and can be hurt. Floyd is doubtfully scared or even impressed by that. Floyd thinks he can blow Cotto out of the ****ing water. That's what Floyd believes if anything.

            Hatton was a tremendous threat to Floyd stylistically, and he took Ricky based on a schoolyard taunt. Floyd Mayweather doesn't believe he can be beat.

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            • Technical_Skill
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              #86
              Arum is a joker about a year ago he was claiming mayweather is the greatest fighter since Ali, then mayweather left Arum to do buisness with De La Hoya so he could make more money. Next minute arum will have you believe he is ducking fighters like margarito and cotto.

              Funny thing is, people actually believe this ****.

              Over the years this is who mayweather "ducked".

              Hatton, apparently whe he moved up to 147 to avoid him
              Gatti, some clowns were saying mayweather attempted to get found guilty of battery charges so he wouldnt have to fight him.
              Mosley, despite calling him out on hbo years ago and that mysterious toothache mosley gets when its time to fight mayweather
              Baldomir,when baldmir beat judah and mayweather still fought judah anyways people tried to say he was scared of baldomir
              Margarito, two words for ya, Daniel-Santos.

              ****ing el, even some nutters think he is ducking pacquaio and that those two could fight at 140.

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              • Tijuana Tornado
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                #87
                Originally posted by Technical_Skill
                Margarito, two words for ya, Daniel-Santos.
                So you're saying he had no real excuse to duck Margarito? I agree.

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                • Technical_Skill
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                  #88
                  Originally posted by Mike Bison
                  So you're saying he had no real excuse to duck Margarito? I agree.
                  Lol, fighting margarito meant staying with Arum, Arum offered him the deal as a one time offer subject to mayweather not become a free agent i believe.

                  Which move makes more sense,

                  Fight Margarito for the ****ty WBO and stay with Bob Arum, who refused to work with Golden boy at the time (so no de la hoya fight if he stays with arum)

                  Or

                  Make the same money, as a free agent, fighting for the Welterweight Championship, with a view to fighting de la hoya for 20 million next?

                  Hardly a no brainer is it.

                  Unless, you are suggesting the following

                  1) Margarito at 147 is a harder fight than de la hoya at 154
                  2) That Margarito would acutally beat mayweather
                  3) Margarito is in the same league as floyd mayweather, despite 2 losses to daniel santos and a loss to paul williams.

                  And Margarito ducked williams for ages, it was only until the WBO threatened to strip him of the title unless he fought williams, which was when he took the fight, and lost.

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                  • Tijuana Tornado
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by Technical_Skill
                    Lol, fighting margarito meant staying with Arum, Arum offered him the deal as a one time offer subject to mayweather not become a free agent i believe.

                    Which move makes more sense,

                    Fight Margarito for the ****ty WBO and stay with Bob Arum, who refused to work with Golden boy at the time (so no de la hoya fight if he stays with arum)

                    Or

                    Make the same money, as a free agent, fighting for the Welterweight Championship, with a view to fighting de la hoya for 20 million next?

                    Hardly a no brainer is it.

                    Unless, you are suggesting the following

                    1) Margarito at 147 is a harder fight than de la hoya at 154
                    2) That Margarito would acutally beat mayweather
                    3) Margarito is in the same league as floyd mayweather, despite 2 losses to daniel santos and a loss to paul williams.

                    And Margarito ducked williams for ages, it was only until the WBO threatened to strip him of the title unless he fought williams, which was when he took the fight, and lost.

                    Mayweather has always said he's about making money. What's wrong with fighting Margarito and then getting out of the contract with Arum? I mean, he was going to get $8 million for the fight minimum. It's not like he was fighting the guy and making little money. It would have been a career high payday. I don't think most people believe Margarito would have beaten him, but it seems like Mayweather is afraid when you consider he chose to fight other fighters in 2005 and 2006 for less money and was fortunate to be handed $8 million to fight Baldomir. I honestly believe Mayweather considers Margarito and most other natural welters a serious threat to him and that's why we won't see him in the ring with them.

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                    • JHAVIS
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by Mike Bison
                      Mayweather has always said he's about making money. What's wrong with fighting Margarito and then getting out of the contract with Arum? I mean, he was going to get $8 million for the fight minimum. It's not like he was fighting the guy and making little money. It would have been a career high payday. I don't think most people believe Margarito would have beaten him, but it seems like Mayweather is afraid when you consider he chose to fight other fighters in 2005 and 2006 for less money and was fortunate to be handed $8 million to fight Baldomir. I honestly believe Mayweather considers Margarito and most other natural welters a serious threat to him and that's why we won't see him in the ring with them.
                      if he still would have been under contract with arum, the the fight nor the money would have been offered. arum was just bitter mayweather left his camp. this fight wouldnt have generated the money that a fight with baldomir generated. plus baldomir was coming off two big wins.

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