Multiple titles in multiple weight classes

[Benny Leonard]

To be fair he was killing himself to make 130.

And buddy,

There IS a difference between same day weigh ins and day before weigh ins.

****ing tool. THe facts are right in front of you. Accept them.

The person I asked was a pro boxer.

Everybody for the past ??? whatever amount of years would be under the same thread, which means, Floyd would be fighting people like Pac.

If we had same day weigh-ins, Hatton, Welter. Tszyu would be at Welter. Gatti, OMG, he wouldn't have a career. The list goes on.

Anyway, when were same day weigh-ins last?

[Azteca]

I'm NOT amazed with his performances at Welterweight. If they DID have same day weighins today, he'd probably have been at this weight since 2002 or 2003 at the latest.

This is NOT to say that Floyd is NOT a very talented fighter. He is. He has great talent. I don't oooooh and aaaaaah over the fact that he is campaigning successfully at welterwegiht today. Or the fact he's won titles in 5 seperate weight classes.

Day before weighins have made weight classes almost irrelevant. And Multiple division titleists are NOT the same as what they used to be, even 20 years ago.

[Benny Leonard]

WRONG, Floyd was 137 1/2 for the Chavez fight at 130, try again bud.

How much was Chavez?

[Thread Stealer]

i agree with the main point that multiple weight class titles have to be taken into perspective. rule changes have allowed it to be possible to compete in more weight classes (imagine gatti and dlh making 130 under old rules )

there are more belts to choose from.

however, who would the fighters be facing under the old rules? Mayweather fought Castillo for one of his titles...where would Castillo (and Corrales for that matter) be under the old rules? Oscar De La Fishmet beat Vargas at a unification bout @ 154...Vargas doesn't make 154 under the old rules.

[Welter_Skelter]

He (Azteca) took a perfectly valid Point... and screwed his point up by talking about weight gaining...

here is the simple Reason why Mulitweight champs after the late 70's and early 80's are Overated.. Or at least that Feat is overated..

Before then.. there was 8 divisions.. There was 16 for most of the 80's and 17 since Cruiserweight was added...

Now Winning 5 Titles in 8 Divisons when each difference is somewhere between 12 and 15 lbs.. is much more impressive than doing it when you have jumped 20 lbs and covered 5 divisons right there..

It dont compare...

[Benny Leonard]

I'm NOT amazed with his performances at Welterweight. If they DID have same day weighins today, he'd probably have been at this weight since 2002 or 2003 at the latest.

This is NOT to say that Floyd is NOT a very talented fighter. He is. He has great talent. I don't oooooh and aaaaaah over the fact that he is campaigning successfully at welterwegiht today. Or the fact he's won titles in 5 seperate weight classes.

Day before weighins have made weight classes almost irrelevant. And Multiple division titleists are NOT the same as what they used to be, even 20 years ago.

But he just fought someone the same weight, Hatton.

He fought Oscar that out-weighed him by at least 10 pounds and it was probably more.

If he continues, he will face fighters 10+ pounds more than him in the same division.


Everybody at 140 will weigh in at 149+ by fight time....same as Floyd for his fights at 147 now.


Still not sure on the Hatton weigh-in by fight time...anybody know?

[Azteca]

He (Azteca) took a perfectly valid Point... and screwed his point up by talking about weight gaining...

here is the simple Reason why Mulitweight champs after the late 70's and early 80's are Overated.. Or at least that Feat is overated..

Before then.. there was 8 divisions.. There was 16 for most of the 80's and 17 since Cruiserweight was added...

Now Winning 5 Titles in 8 Divisons when each difference is somewhere between 12 and 15 lbs.. is much more impressive than doing it when you have jumped 20 lbs and covered 5 divisons right there..

It dont compare...

I'm bieng real Welter. I'm not just going to say something just because it goes with my viewpoint. Prick.

[Azteca]

And I am talking about the 70's and 80's. Last time I checked they had 16 divisions. So there blows your theory out of the water.

[Thread Stealer]

I'm NOT amazed with his performances at Welterweight. If they DID have same day weighins today, he'd probably have been at this weight since 2002 or 2003 at the latest.

This is NOT to say that Floyd is NOT a very talented fighter. He is. He has great talent. I don't oooooh and aaaaaah over the fact that he is campaigning successfully at welterwegiht today. Or the fact he's won titles in 5 seperate weight classes.

Day before weighins have made weight classes almost irrelevant. And Multiple division titleists are NOT the same as what they used to be, even 20 years ago.

Mayweather was weighing 138-139 on fight night for his lightweight title bouts in 2002-2003. I doubt he had to move up to WW at that point.

I don't think he's looked very amazing in his welterweight and above bouts either, but under the old rules, what would his opponents be? What weight division would the rest of the welterweights be fighting at?

Baldomir outweighed Mayweather 162-149 on the night of the fight. Oscar De La Fishnet surely outweighed Mayweather.

[Benny Leonard]

So, when was same day weigh-ins last, anybody know?