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Can someone tell me what ring generalship is? b/c it seems to me that most people equate it to a fighter "supposedly" fighting "his" fight. Like in the Hatton/PBF bout, the commentators and fans on here keep saying that hatton controlled the fight by doing what he wanted to do and so forth. they would say hatton controlled the "real estate" and wanted it to be rough. but whose to say that, that wasnt PBF's plan coming into the fight. maybe his plan was to stay in close, take his time and slowly dismantle Hatton?(which is what he did) just b/c he hadnt done it in previous fights people are saying that hatton made him fight that way. i disagree! he knew he was stronger than hatton and knew hatton would tire in the later rounds. so PBF worked his game plan to perfection. but hatton was awarded a couple of early rounds(by his fans) for effective aggression and ring generalship?? in the first three rounds hatton didnt land 20 punches, yet Letterman gave him 2 of the 3 rounds! and he said it was b/c hatton was controlling the tempo of the fight...oh really if he was controlling the tempo of the fight, why was he slowing down as early as rd 5? just want to understand how fans judge these 2 aspects when it comes to judging a fight
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It's being in control, cutting off the ring,making them come to you,
It's everything that shows that you are in control of the fight so it is more like, making the other man fight your fight rather then 'fighting your fight'. -
yea but what if the other guy is beating u at your own style? how can u get credit for having somone fight ur style of fight yet he's is being more effective at it? what if during the fight Fighter A realizes that he can changce his game plan Fighter B's style and beat him at it? yet fans and judges see that Fighter A is fighting Fighter B's style of fight. therefore if its a close round then Fighter b gets the benefit of the doubt(therefore winning the round) b/c he is "fighting he style of fight". does anyone see anything wrong with this?Comment
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whoever is winning the fight... is winning the fight .. period... if at the point fighter b changes his style and beats fighter A.... fighter B now is winning and is using HIS ring generalship to dictate the fight... kinda like floyd hatton.. at first hatton was dictating.. as soon as floyd figured it out.. he flipped it on him... and used his style to winComment
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see thats what im saying! At no point did hatton seem like he was "controlling" the fight. he landed a couple of good shots during the infighting early on, but was he really controlling the action?he had a lot of movement which gives the impression that he was doing a lot but really he tired himself out with a lot of "ineffective aggression". so again, if he was controlling the tempo of the fight(fighting his style and pace) how come he got tired so fast? was he really fighting the way PBF wanted him to fight? was the fight really going the way PBF wanted it to go? b/c to me hatton didnt pace himself at all and fot KO'd for his miscalculationsComment
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The thing is that sometimes you don't know or can't see it untill after the fight is over.
If you look at Ali / Foreman it looks as if Foreman is in charge of the fight but in the end you see that Ali was being a ring general by out smarting him and making him run himself out of gas.
Foreman claims that he set Micheal Morrer up in the same fashion.
He made Moorer think that he didn't have as much power as people have said and let Morrer become overconfident which led to the knockout.Comment
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yea i can tell u know ur boxing. but if its a factor that u can really tell only at the end of a fight, why is it a criteria in judging? judges, judge each round individually, therefore if they dont realize whose actually in control of a fight until rd 6 or 7 they may have misjudged the first half of the fight!Comment
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