This is INCREDIBLE: An oddsmaker who blogs online makes VAZQUEZ over a 2-1 FAVORITE

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  • eazy_mas
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    #11
    Originally posted by Boxins'Leet
    I think Vasquez deals with adversity a bit better than Marquez does. The only time Marquez was close to getting beat in recent memory was in the Tim Austin Fight where Tim was clearly winning and then ate a couple rights and that's that. Vasquez has been on the losing seat more often then Marquez, (Larios - Came back to KO him - Gonzales was clearly beating him scoring 2 KD's-Came back to KO him - Marquez- Comes back to KO him next fight) Vasquez has shown tremendous heart and effort. Now, lets see what Marquez can do having to come back.
    He changed his train and took the best in Mexico

    This fight is not only between who is the best in division but also in Mexico city and who is the best Mexican trainer

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    • MaYaN_SuN
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      #12
      Originally posted by -Hyperion-
      i dislike the broken nose excuse.......its not like it broke by itslef.......
      I dont think they're underminding Marquez when they talk about the broken nose. Everyone knows Raf can buck like a stallion, it's just after that nose injury Vasquez was turning it on.

      Marquez already had a problem with staying strong late in fights before makin the move up, now it looks like he loses his sting after 4 or 5 rounds, you add that to the fact Vasquez is just naturally bigger and stronger and you have to give the edge to Israel.

      Raf shouldn't have tried to jump the division like that, he should have eased his way into super bantamweight. He should have waited to see what it feels like to go 12 at that weight, got to feel some harder shots then he's use to feeling, then go after Vasquez.

      Cause Vasquez was never really considered great but Raf has always been great. Now Israel just used Marquez' greatness to finally get his own name up a few notches, wich is lame as ****, being that Marquez is the far better fighter, he's just too small for Israel.
      Last edited by MaYaN_SuN; 12-17-2007, 05:51 PM.

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      • Boxins'Leet
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        #13
        Originally posted by MaYaN_SuN
        Cause Vasquez was never really considered great but Raph has always been great. Now Israel just used Marquez' greatness to finally get his own name up a few notches, wich is lame as ****, being that Marquez is the far better fighter, he's just too small for Israel.
        Perfect! You saved me from having to type this myself. Well said.

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        • MaYaN_SuN
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          #14
          Originally posted by Boxins'Leet
          Perfect! You saved me from having to type this myself. Well said.
          Let's just hope Raf comes in the ring on March 1st with a lil more head and leg movement so it doesn't happen again

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          • PRboxingfan
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            #15
            I thought Vazquez figured out Marquez in the first fight but couldn't really take advantage because of the nose. In the second, tho, he came out and IMHO was dominating Marquez about as much as you could in a close fight (I had it 3 rounds to 1 with 1 even in Vazquez' favor at the time of TKO).

            If Marquez comes out and boxes, he has a good chance of beating Vazquez; but, he won't. Rafa likes to brawl and show off his power and that will be his downfall.

            My money is on Izzy.

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            • THe TRiNiTY
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              #16
              I hope Marquez is the underdog. And I hope he decides to box more. And I hope I decide to put 3 or 4 bills on the fight if the first two things happen.

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              • ElGranLuchador
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                #17
                vasquez should be the favorite hes already shown if he rafa gets caught hes going down
                vasquez is a great fighter the size difference between him and marquez aint that much

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                • -Antonio-
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                  #18
                  It's not like Vasquez wasnt beaten to a pulp before he knocked Marquez out. I mean both eyes were badly cut, his nose was swelling again. Marquez can make adjustments.

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                  • ferocity
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by 2501
                    its fustrating that these guys dont get the attention and credit they deserve just because of their weightclass. and that some "boxing purists" even dare to call them "mindless skillless brawlers".
                    Man that is weak and that shows you that whoever said that about these guys don't know what the hell they are talking about. Both, imo are proven warriors and both are skilled and smart fighters, though I belive Marquez has the better skills all around, Vasquez is a pitbull.

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                    • v.cassiusali@ya
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                      #20
                      delahoya-mayorga fight having more ppv buys than mayweather-hatton. its simple, delahoya fights like a boxer, smashing the over-confident braggart mayorga to the ground. when oscar fights, brawl is expected, when mayweather fights, a 100 or 200 meter dash is expected. mayweather fights like a toddler afraid of ghost!

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