for those of you who are not impressed with PBF's career, what will it take for you to respect him as an atg?
What will it take?
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What will it take?
18beat cotto44.44%8beat williams/cotto50.00%9beat those two and move up in weight/ or move down to beat pac0.00%0he needs to do i lot more in my eyes5.56%1nothing, he has ducked too many people and doesnt have the quality wins0.00%0Tags: None -
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so you guys just like to bash him, not even going to respond because you know when it happens i would pull up this thread
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I don't think Cotto can beat him. Williams would be a good fight although I'd like to see him get more experience first. But by 'ATG', I'm not sure what that would mean exactly; number 1, top 5, top 10, top 40, etc. He still wouldn't be top 10 most likely.Comment
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Floyd's a P4P ATG, but, not in all weight classes he has fought, for example, not a 147 ATG. He woul have to unify the titles at 147 to be in that class.
For the haters, he has to unify 147, move up and beat Forrest, move up again and beat Pav/Taylor winner, move up again and beat Calzaghe/Hopkins winner, possibly fight Dawson, but if he doesn't want him, he needs to fight Wlad for the Heavyweight title. However, even if he does all that, we all know that Cotto has no chin, Williams would have been to drained to fight, Forrest has lost to Mayorga, Pav is white, Cal/Hopkins is old (one white the other cashing in S.S. checks), Dawson is to green, and Wlad, well, glass chin.
Floyd needs to call Doc Brown and rebuild the time-machine so that he can fight a prime SRR, then we can talk. Although again, it may be unfair since Floyd has all the advantages of modern training.Comment
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Why is that an unreasonable idea? We're talking about superman here, nothings impossible.Floyd's a P4P ATG, but, not a individual ATG, for example, not a 147 ATG. He woul have to unify the titles at 147 to be in that class.
For the haters, he has to unify 147, move up and beat Forrest, move up again and beat Pav/Taylor winner, move up again and beat Calzaghe/Hopkins winner, possibly fight Dawson, but if he doesn't want him, he needs to fight Wlad for the Heavyweight title. However, even if he does all that, we all know that Cotto has no chin, Williams would have been to drained to fight, Forrest has lost to Mayorga, Pav is white, Cal/Hopkins is old (one white the other cashing in S.S. checks), Dawson is to green, and Wlad, well, glass chin.
Floyd needs to call Doc Brown and rebuild the time-machine so that he can fight a prime SRR, then we can talk. Although again, it may be unfair since Floyd has all the advantages of modern training.Comment
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lol ,funny post manFloyd's a P4P ATG, but, not in all weight classes he has fought, for example, not a 147 ATG. He woul have to unify the titles at 147 to be in that class.
For the haters, he has to unify 147, move up and beat Forrest, move up again and beat Pav/Taylor winner, move up again and beat Calzaghe/Hopkins winner, possibly fight Dawson, but if he doesn't want him, he needs to fight Wlad for the Heavyweight title. However, even if he does all that, we all know that Cotto has no chin, Williams would have been to drained to fight, Forrest has lost to Mayorga, Pav is white, Cal/Hopkins is old (one white the other cashing in S.S. checks), Dawson is to green, and Wlad, well, glass chin.
Floyd needs to call Doc Brown and rebuild the time-machine so that he can fight a prime SRR, then we can talk. Although again, it may be unfair since Floyd has all the advantages of modern training.Comment
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Floyd's better than Superman. From what I remember, didn't Superman lose a fight?
And let us remember, Floyd loves Green while Superman, well, we know what happens.
Could you imagine what Money May would do with this
Last edited by Benny Leonard; 12-14-2007, 09:25 PM.Comment
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The staus of ATG is judged by history.. It's too soon.. How much credit does the guy need?
He is P4P #1 and easily one of the top 3 most talented fighters of the past 30 or so years.. talent doesn't always equate to greatness..
Some of his Achievements are masked by smoke and mirrors.. A Five Division belt holder in this era of Boxing does not Equate a 5 Divison CHAMP in History... There were less belts to claim in the past..(less sanctioning Bodies, less divisions) So it's somewhat more impressive for those of the past who did it..
Floyd has a B+ Resume so far..
He still has time to Raise his stock...
But right now if he never fought again.. he would go down as one of the best of This ERA...Comment
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