Floyd's ELBOW video...what do you think

[Technical_Skill]

To be fair floyd's elbow wasnt the reason floyd knocked hatton into the ringpost and flat on his back.

[revs1227]

lol at lernord "he the only 1 wrestl;in joe" get the *** outa heret hes def gay

[squealpiggy]

At 2.04 on the youtube clock Floyd turns Hatton around and punches him in the back of the head. Just throwing that out there.

[Benny Leonard]

At 2.04 on the youtube clock Floyd turns Hatton around and punches him in the back of the head. Just throwing that out there.

That's true, but check out the first round, at the end, 30 seconds left in the round/ 3:33 on youtube...and then again with 26 seconds left where he is warned.

[Weebler I]

That's true, but check out the first round, at the end, 30 seconds left in the round/ 3:33 on youtube

Its fairly ambiguous as to whether he was aiming for the side of the head and Floyd ducked. After all he ends up missing the back of his head which suggests Floyd moved in that instant.

[Benny Leonard]

Its fairly ambiguous as to whether he was aiming for the side of the head and Floyd ducked. After all he ends up missing the back of his head which suggests Floyd moved in that instant.

Floyd's head was already down...Hatton looks, then throws.

Look at 26 seconds as well.

It's not the first time Hatton has done this in a fight.

It is easier to hit Floyd on the back of the head because of his style, but when you are hitting fighters' like Tszyu to the back of the head, that's a problem.

So this was an accident as well?

[Weebler I]

Floyd's head was already down...Hatton looks, then throws.

Look at 26 seconds as well.

It's not the first time Hatton has done this in a fight.

It is easier to hit Floyd on the back of the head because of his style, but when you are hitting fighters' like Tszyu to the back of the head, that's a problem.

So this was an accident as well?

First one is ambiguous as to intention, and hands up the second one (26 secs) is a definite hit. But Floyd is holding in both of them whilst Hatton's trying to get free so thats not legal either.

I take your point tho, he was warned, but both could be considered retaliation for holding, no?

Regarding the R5, Floyd forearm smashes him to the face bigtime, Hatton loses his rag clubs Floyd and chases him to which Floyd turns his back. Hatton throws a semi-punch which hits the ropes as Floyd is too low down.

Bottom line, Floyd never gets penalised.

[Benny Leonard]

First one is ambiguous as to intention, and hands up the second one (26 secs) is a definite hit. But Floyd is holding in both of them whilst Hatton's trying to get free so thats not legal either.

I take your point tho, he was warned, but both could be considered retaliation for holding, no?

Regarding the R5, Floyd forearm smashes him to the face bigtime, Hatton loses his rag clubs Floyd a couple of times and chases him to which Floyd turns his back. Hatton throws a semi-punch which hits the ropes as Floyd is too low down.

Bottom line, Floyd never gets penalised.

There were lots of warnings on both sides, but only one point taken in the entire fight, which was the shoving of Floyd into the ropes then throwing a shot to the back of the head. The other shots to the back of the head were only warnings because it wasn't deemed as intentional as the other.


I too would have liked another ref, like Smoger or Cappuccino, but Cortez did follow the book (from what I am hearing), except he should have been a bit more lenient to let the fighters ref themselves.

You still cannot headlock a fighter or hold and hit, and definitely not hit behind the head, so let's remember that.

If you want to work on the inside, **** away. And yes, both fighters were doing the holding and hitting, but I am still guessing it was Floyd's doing to say, "kiss my ass, I'm doing it right back"...intention to screw with Hatton's head since he is using his tactic against him.

I still don't think any of it mattered, Floyd would have won no matter who the ref was. Floyd comes on strong from the mid point on.

[Weebler I]

There were lots of warnings on both sides, but only one point taken in the entire fight.

The ref definitely seemed more focused on Hatton. Not helped by Roger Mayweather accusing him between rounds.

, which was the shoving of Floyd into the ropes then throwing a shot to the back of the head. The other shots to the back of the head were only warnings because it wasn't deemed as intentional as the other.

What about the swinging elbow to the face? Its the other side of the camera range but look closely its a biggie and it connected unlike the additional head shot which missed by a good bit.

I too would have liked another ref, like Smoger or Cappuccino, but Cortez did follow the book (from what I am hearing), except he should have been a bit more lenient to let the fighters ref themselves.

Yep, it was the breaking up in the early rounds which killed it as a contest with Hatton getting picked off after the break off. He wasn't consistent either, he didn't break up anywhere near as much after the 4th.

You still cannot headlock a fighter or hold and hit, and definitely not hit behind the head, so let's remember that.

Indeed.

If you want to work on the inside, **** away. And yes, both fighters were doing the holding and hitting, but I am still guessing it was Floyd's doing to say, "kiss my ass, I'm doing it right back"...intention to screw with Hatton's head since he is using his tactic against him.

To be honest, I think Floyd prepared for an inside fight. But he was able to take advantage when the ref broke it up early whereas Hatton couldn't because he needed there to be inside fighting. Hatton went in with the reputation built up in the media by the Mayweather camp a week before the fight and the ref stuck tighter to him and missed Floyd's elbows, ducking an

It basically killed Hatton off. He was absorbing too many shots on the break-up so that when the fight became freer and had more of a flow he was punch drunk.

[Benny Leonard]

The Weebler II: The ref definitely seemed more focused on Hatton. Not helped by Roger Mayweather accusing him between rounds.

He was focused on Hatton this is true, but Hatton's reputation in fights hasn't been good since the Tszyu fight, and for good reason. He still was breaking them up when the clinch and hit tactic and the headlock move was being displayed so you really cannot blame him for that.

What about the swinging elbow to the face? Its the other side of the camera range but look closely its a biggie and it connected unlike the additional head shot which missed by a good bit.

I'll have to go back and watch this. Round 5 you say?

I will watch later on today...right now, have to go.

Yep, it was the breaking up in the early rounds which killed it as a contest with Hatton getting picked off after the break off. He wasn't consistent either, he didn't break up anywhere near as much after the 4th.

You have to stay mentally focused and adapt to anything throughout the fight, which is why Floyd is seperated from most fighters in his era.

To be honest, I think Floyd prepared for an inside fight. But he was able to take advantage when the ref broke it up early whereas Hatton couldn't because he needed there to be inside fighting. Hatton went in with the reputation built up in the media by the Mayweather camp a week before the fight and the ref stuck tighter to him and missed Floyd's elbows, ducking an

It basically killed Hatton off. He was absorbing too many shots on the break-up so that when the fight became freer and had more of a flow he was punch drunk.

But if you look at it this way, if Hatton didn't get so close to Floyd, which actually smothered his (Ricky's) own punches, which Billy told Hatton he was doing, it would have left more room for Floyd to unload. Ever wonder why Floyd practices short puching, this would be why. Hatton was worried to be countered so he was on him like a wet-white t-shirt, but it also worked against him.