A few things about Muhammad Ali...

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  • Undefeated
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    A few things about Muhammad Ali...

    Yea...

    I know there are a couple of people on here who know there boxing.


    Im just wondering if some can provide valuable infomation. I mean im checking the net as we speak, but nothings better than to ask it here on the boxing forum.


    I have to write a paper.. A controversial essay paper on Muhammad Ali.


    I want all the info as possible. I mean I know about Ali, but its best to ask the true Muhammad Ali fans.......

    Can ya help me out?
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    Ask away, I read "King of the World" by David Remnick and "The Authorized Biography of Muhammad Ali" by Thomas Hauser. I know a bit about Ali.

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    • Boxingboxing101
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      Don't ask this board. They'll probably get into a discusion is their favorite man Judah could move up 10 weight classes and beat him.

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        Originally posted by Asian Sensation
        Ask away, I read "King of the World" by David Remnick and "The Authorized Biography of Muhammad Ali" by Thomas Hauser. I know a bit about Ali.

        My english teacher wants us to write a paper on a selected few people. Muhammad Ali was one of them.

        What was controversial about him.... I mean I wish I had some books so I can read and provide a source and what not.

        Sometimes the internet isn't all the best. THat's why I ask people on this forum.

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        • porlie
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          write about his views maturing as he did, He used to spout on that the white man was the devil once upon a time lol.
          Last edited by porlie; 12-10-2007, 05:06 PM.

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          • ßringer
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            If you're wanting to write a great paper that has something to do with Muhammad Ali you can talk about how hated he was as a sportsfigure and man in his era for his civil rights activism. How half of the Country practically hated him his entire career, and how years later at the Olympics there wasn't a dry eye in the Nation when he lit the torch.

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              What wasn't controversial about the young Muhammad Ali. Ali converted to Islam shortly before the first Liston fight in 1964, enlisting the services of Malcolm X. The promoters were afraid a fight between an ex-con, Liston, and a black supremacist, Ali, wouldn't sell in the still segregated south, Miami. Upon the request of promoters, Malcolm X disappeared from Ali's camp until just before the fight.

              Then came the rematch. Some pundits were still crying foul play and fix when the rematch took place in Lewiston, ME. The fight, which took place in a high school gymnasium, had the lowest attendance for any heavyweight title fight. The venue had to be changed when promoters were spooked by talks of Liston's mafia associates fixing the fight and a rumor that, should Liston win the fight, that members of the Nation of Islam, a radical ****** organization, would assasinate Liston. Perhaps Liston bought into the hype, as many feel he took a dive in the first round. To this day, there are more theories about "The Phantom Punch" than JFK's assasination.

              By that time, Ali was beginning to really stir people's feathers. Ali was proclaiming black pride, telling the establishment things like "I Don't Have to be What you want me to be," while promoting African-American seperatism. He was very much in line with Malcolm X's stance against MLK's non-violence pleas.

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              • Truth
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                Originally posted by Asian Sensation
                Ask away, I read "King of the World" by David Remnick and "The Authorized Biography of Muhammad Ali" by Thomas Hauser. I know a bit about Ali.
                I have that book. Its a great bio of Ali.

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                  Originally posted by Undefeated
                  My english teacher wants us to write a paper on a selected few people. Muhammad Ali was one of them.

                  What was controversial about him.... I mean I wish I had some books so I can read and provide a source and what not.

                  Sometimes the internet isn't all the best. THat's why I ask people on this forum.
                  Ali was controversy embodied. He dodged the military draft because he didn't believe in the Vietnam war. Something he caught horrible flack over (still does), years later it turned out he was right in his judgment of the merit of the war. Talk about how people used to want to see him jailed, how half of the Country who didn't even watch boxing began to support Joe Frazier in spite of Ali.

                  The list of material is endless. It's amazing that someone as hated as he was back in his era, is now looked upon as the single greatest sports figure of all time.

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                  • Undefeated
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                    Originally posted by Asian Sensation
                    What wasn't controversial about the young Muhammad Ali. Ali converted to Islam shortly before the first Liston fight in 1964, enlisting the services of Malcolm X. The promoters were afraid a fight between an ex-con, Liston, and a black supremacist, Ali, wouldn't sell in the still segregated south, Miami. Upon the request of promoters, Malcolm X disappeared from Ali's camp until just before the fight.

                    Then came the rematch. Some pundits were still crying foul play and fix when the rematch took place in Lewiston, ME. The fight, which took place in a high school gymnasium, had the lowest attendance for any heavyweight title fight. The venue had to be changed when promoters were spooked by talks of Liston's mafia associates fixing the fight and a rumor that, should Liston win the fight, that members of the Nation of Islam, a radical ****** organization, would assasinate Liston. Perhaps Liston bought into the hype, as many feel he took a dive in the first round. To this day, there are more theories about "The Phantom Punch" than JFK's assasination.

                    By that time, Ali was beginning to really stir people's feathers. Ali was proclaiming black pride, telling the establishment things like "I Don't Have to be What you want me to be," while promoting African-American seperatism. He was very much in line with Malcolm X's stance against MLK's non-violence pleas.

                    Damn Asian.. You wrote that off the top of your head? No wonder you're such a great writer. Dead ass bro....

                    I know that racism was a factor also. I've never really read into Ali like that. I should have though. Also I know he was drafted or was gonna be, and he changed his name, I just don't know why he changed his name.. You can laugh, but its true.

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