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  • Khova
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    Why Cotto And Co Will Struggle With Pbf

    Boxing is as much about the mind games as anything else.

    Look at Hatton. They (Mayweather and co) continued to push the message that he was one dimensional and had slow body punches, and disclosed who they had as their 'lookalike' a slow Carlos baldomir.

    Result ?

    Hatton got insulted and decided to show a bit more. Truth is, he hasnt got more. When he started trying to head hunt he got exposed badly. Had he stuck to his body hunt he might have had more success.

    The other obvious thing was that whole con of Mayweather not liking it rough. Mayweather obviously can adapt to anything. In fact in this fight Mayweather bullied Hatton.

    The problem for all of these fighters is that none of them possess the mental edge needed to beat Mayweather. I have now noticed that even Manny Steward is rattled by PBF. The way he said before the fight that Floyd would be in for a battle, backed it up in the first three rouds by saying how uncomfortable Mayweather was and how Hatton was dictating the pace, and then turning against all of that after the fight an saying that PBF was never going to be challenged unless he took on the bigger welters, which he wouldnt do (including his own Cintron).

    Well here is the rub. All of these fighters need Floyd to make money. Floyd wants to make money from someone too...and there is noone out there untill they clean each other out and pave the grounds for a legitimate superfight.

    Its perfect business sense. Why go through the hardship of getting your body maxed out and then you dont totally capitalise. In fact you opponent eats well from your reputation and pulling power. Think about it. DLH and Hatton were the ONLY two fighters who could pull the numbers that the promo effort demanded.

    Back to the fight styles, Cotto is a bigger, more powerful fighter but presents no problems speed and mobility wise. He would be outpointed and posssibly knocked out if he chased the fight so much that he left himself open.

    Margarito would be countered to death.

    The toughest fight would be Williams and I see PBF totally changing the dynamics of that fight by reducing the punch output of WIlliams (see what he did to Hatton).

    We are all witnessing the prime of a phenomenon. Let us all bask in it.
  • AntonTheMeh
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    #2
    and you think cotto is gonna crumble under the pressure?
    right.
    next.

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    • borikua
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      #3
      lol.




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      • magik10
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        Due to Floyd mouth and hand speed, people simply overlook his greatest attribute: defense. His defense breaks down game plans and destroys the will of the other fighter as the fight goes on.

        Cotto already takes too many hits to get inside. Floyd would pick him off all night. Cotto is very suseptible to a KO against Floyd.

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        • Khova
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          Who said about crumbling under pressure. Cotto will have a much bigger problem. Cottos strength is his strength. He would be fighting the smartest boxer possibly in history.

          You did see how Mayweather adapted to Hatton. This wasnt a typical Cotto blast you out or come through a war and win. And neither will a Cotto and Mayweather fight be like that. It will be a chess match between a chess player and a butcher.

          I really cannot see Cotto being able to deal with a fighter who would give him at least 3 or four different looks whilst scoring points through the fight. He is not built to deal with that. To be fair, noone is.

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          • renren40
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            Cotto will not beat Williams...this will be a good fight....i think
            Paul Williams is the next big thing...

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            • RichCCFC
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              #7
              If only Hatton had Baldimirs chin lol.

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              • Khova
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                The problem is I dont see a fight out there where the other fighter brings commercial value to the fight ala DLH and Hatton.

                Maybe if Cotto or Williams cleans up the division and HBO / Golden Boy can put up magic numbers. Remember, Mayweather now promotes. He is now seeing the numbers behind the scenes. That changes the perspective of a fighter as to whether they REALLY are making money for the kind of hurt they are putting themselves through.

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                • -EX-
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                  I respect Cotto as a fighter. It'd be a challenge. Don't bring that joke Margarito in here. Floyd would make him look ******.

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                  • pbftxrs316
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                    Originally posted by Khova
                    Boxing is as much about the mind games as anything else.

                    Look at Hatton. They (Mayweather and co) continued to push the message that he was one dimensional and had slow body punches, and disclosed who they had as their 'lookalike' a slow Carlos baldomir.

                    Result ?

                    Hatton got insulted and decided to show a bit more. Truth is, he hasnt got more. When he started trying to head hunt he got exposed badly. Had he stuck to his body hunt he might have had more success.

                    The other obvious thing was that whole con of Mayweather not liking it rough. Mayweather obviously can adapt to anything. In fact in this fight Mayweather bullied Hatton.

                    The problem for all of these fighters is that none of them possess the mental edge needed to beat Mayweather. I have now noticed that even Manny Steward is rattled by PBF. The way he said before the fight that Floyd would be in for a battle, backed it up in the first three rouds by saying how uncomfortable Mayweather was and how Hatton was dictating the pace, and then turning against all of that after the fight an saying that PBF was never going to be challenged unless he took on the bigger welters, which he wouldnt do (including his own Cintron).

                    Well here is the rub. All of these fighters need Floyd to make money. Floyd wants to make money from someone too...and there is noone out there untill they clean each other out and pave the grounds for a legitimate superfight.

                    Its perfect business sense. Why go through the hardship of getting your body maxed out and then you dont totally capitalise. In fact you opponent eats well from your reputation and pulling power. Think about it. DLH and Hatton were the ONLY two fighters who could pull the numbers that the promo effort demanded.

                    Back to the fight styles, Cotto is a bigger, more powerful fighter but presents no problems speed and mobility wise. He would be outpointed and posssibly knocked out if he chased the fight so much that he left himself open.

                    Margarito would be countered to death.

                    The toughest fight would be Williams and I see PBF totally changing the dynamics of that fight by reducing the punch output of WIlliams (see what he did to Hatton).

                    We are all witnessing the prime of a phenomenon. Let us all bask in it.
                    hell of a post man. floyd is the smarest fighter today and one of the smartest in history, and his adaptation to fighters is so dynamic. i again have said this since 2004 that mayweather would tear cotto up to shreds and yes, he can knock him out, floyd does know how to knock anybody out. he breaks you down, then knocks you out. i read posts claiming this and that about how cotto would be too much for floyd, but he would be easier than hatton was because he dosn't clinch and hold, he puts on pressure but he is too slow for floyd and he cannot outbox floyd and he tried to outbox shane. i repeat HE CANNOT OUTBOX FLOYD MAYWEATHER JR, PERIOD, AND I FEEL COTTO WOULD TRY TO DO THAT. I SEE FLOYD TEAING INTO COTTO AND POSSIBLY KNOCKING HIM OUT, AND I'VE BEEN SAYING THIS SINCE 2004, WHICH I FEEL IS THE REASON WHY COTTO NEVER CALLED FLOYD OUT AT 140, THE SPEED AND ELUSIVENESS ADDED WITH FLOYD'S POWER AT THAT WEIGHT WAS TOO MUCH FOR COTTO, AND TODAY IT STILL IS. FLOYD WOULD USE COTTO'S STRENGTH AGAINST HIM TO BREAK COTTO DOWN, BECAUSE FLOYD IS TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO METHODICAL FOR COTTO AND WILLIAMS. HE DICTATES THE PACE OF ANY FIGHT, NO MATTER WHO HE FIGHTS.

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