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  • THe TRiNiTY
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    ..Willy Dettloff's take on Hatton/Mayweather...

    "HBO’s Mayweather/Hatton 24/7 documentary has done a superb job of selling the fight. Which is to say it’s done a superb job of convincing viewers (see: potential pay-per-view buys) that Ricky Hatton stands a reasonable chance of winning. Between watching him hammer that gargantuan body ball that’s strapped to trainer Billy Graham’s torso, and listening to him, steely-eyed and resolute, predict dire things for Mayweather, you’d think the two are easily on the same plane.

    On paper at least, they are not. It’s not close.

    Long forgotten is the hellish time Hatton had with Luis Collazo in his only other bout against a top-ranked welterweight. In the wake of Hatton’s immense affability and popularity, most were more than willing at the time to forget that the decision could quite readily have gone the other way. Hatton did not; he dropped right back down to 140 pounds where he belonged.

    Only that return to junior welter didn’t go as planned. Juan Urango’s bodyshots so discomfited Hatton that Graham had to nurse him through the early rounds with between-rounds counsel along the lines of, “All fighters have days like these and you are obligated to suck it up.” Suck it up Hatton did, even if over the last two rounds doing so required him to hold on to Urango like he held the tap to the last keg of Guinness in Manchester.

    Mayweather has never been as close to losing to anyone as Hatton was those two nights, even against far better competition. It is commonly accepted that Jose Luis Castillo, when he was young and fresh, came closer than anyone has to beating Mayweather. And in my view, he didn’t come very close at all.

    Still, Hatton has the right style to beat Mayweather. Generally, swarmers like Hatton do better against classical boxers than do other boxers or big punchers. Without a lot of trouble, one can envision Hatton’s whirlwind, mauling style wearing Mayweather down over the course of a long, grueling bout. Indeed, as I write this, the poll on this very site shows 34.1 percent of respondents picking Hatton by kayo.

    I don’t see it. Mayweather wins this. Hard or easy, but he wins it. Too fast, too skilled, too good."

    Taken from the Ring's website.

    Thoughts?
  • Technical_Skill
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    #2
    Did anyone actually see hatton thowing those punches the other day in infront of the camera? i looked at the sequence he threw, and suddenly, i thought i worked it out.

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    • Orange Sneakers
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      #3
      No chance.

      Hatton will win this and win it well. (Hatton in the shape he was in against Collazo wouldn't win 10 seconds)

      If Jesus Chavez, Castillo and Oscar could force Floyd back and pin Floyd against the ropes and even in corners, then Hatton most certainly can and will, because his leverages and footspeed are second to none, and he's great at getting his head into chests... but Hatton won't be leaning on Floyd while throwing feather shots to arms and elbows (like Jesus Chavez and Castillo did) - he'll be side-stepping to create the space to thread powerful lefts into the few gaps Floyd leaves in the way he covers up, and side-stepping back or switching southpaw inside if he has to to keep Floyd against the ropes and his head in his chest

      Not much chance in hell Floyd win this one, guys!

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        #4
        Originally posted by Orange Sneakers
        No chance.

        Hatton will win this and win it well. (Hatton in the shape he was in against Collazo wouldn't win 10 seconds)

        If Jesus Chavez, Castillo and Oscar could force Floyd back and pin Floyd against the ropes and even in corners, then Hatton most certainly can and will, because his leverages and footspeed are second to none, and he's great at getting his head into chests... but Hatton won't be leaning on Floyd while throwing feather shots to arms and elbows (like Jesus Chavez and Castillo did) - he'll be side-stepping to create the space to thread powerful lefts into the few gaps Floyd leaves in the way he covers up, and side-stepping back or switching southpaw inside if he has to to keep Floyd against the ropes and his head in his chest

        Not much chance in hell Floyd win this one, guys!
        We should bet some points on that.

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        • Orange Sneakers
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          #5
          I'll bet all my points.

          I've already bet £300 ($600), for real. I may bet everything I have, yet

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            #6
            Originally posted by Orange Sneakers
            I'll bet all my points.

            I've already bet £300 ($600), for real. I may bet everything I have, yet

            How about 15,000 points?

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            • bluemax
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              #7
              I give Hatton a chance but a small one at that!! A Hatton win would be a upset in my book. I agree completely with the original poster. This fight is more of a media derived event as if any objective boxing fan studied both fighters previous performances it's apparent that Hatton is NOT a full blown welterweight. I expect Hatton to do his best to win, get pounded, take his well deserved huge payday have a few more fights as a jr welterweight and retire. He'll still be seen as an very, very good fighter and maybe even great as a Jr welterweight but as a welterweight where he would fight bigger guys as Collazzo showed he's at best above average. Hatton is not big enought to win against a fighter like Mayweather, this fight is almost a guarenteed win for Floyd because of the size and speed difference. The only thing Hatton has going for him is the fact that if Buster Douglas could beat Mike Tyson than he has a chance against Mayweather but only a small chance at best.

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              • Orange Sneakers
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                #8
                Originally posted by C-Drone
                How about 15,000 points?
                20........

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Orange Sneakers
                  20........

                  Make it 50 million!

                  OKay...... 20,000 it is. Sig it up.

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                  • squealpiggy
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                    #10
                    Bill's a true gent but he's also often wrong in his predictions and he freely admits it! I think he's underestimating Hatton's ability based on two fights which happened to be the two worst nights of Ricky's career, and I also think he misunderstood the urango fight which had less to do with Juan's body shots and more to do with Hatton being sick. I'm basing this on the fact that Urango landed monster body shots against Hatton in the fifth, yet Hatton had his best round in the sixth.

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