Malignaggi on Floyd, Hatton, Hopkins, Cotto

[PRboxingfan]

Cotto v Malignaggi
115-112 116-111 116-111

Cotto v Mosley
116-113 115-113 115-113

And how did you score it? I had the Malignaggi fight 115-112 and the Mosley fight 116-112. Seems to me, at least, that Malignaggi won one more round than Mosley.

Also, not counting the KD, I think Cotto had an easier time with Mosley than he did against Paulie.

BTW, the reason I think Hatton is overrated is because the only significant fight is the win over Kostya. Castillo proved to be unwilling to fight or he got old quick (I'll admit, I thought Castillo would win and I was wrong).

[rj_ct]

And how did you score it? I had the Malignaggi fight 115-112 and the Mosley fight 116-112. Seems to me, at least, that Malignaggi won one more round than Mosley.

Also, not counting the KD, I think Cotto had an easier time with Mosley than he did against Paulie.

BTW, the reason I think Hatton is overrated is because the only significant fight is the win over Kostya. Castillo proved to be unwilling to fight or he got old quick (I'll admit, I thought Castillo would win and I was wrong).

i agree with everything you said, except i don't think hatton is overrated. yeah, he's got a padded record and his only significant wins were tzsyu and collazo (debatable, but still a win), and do think mayweather will beat him easier than a lot of people would like to admit, but hatton's got the skills to beat a lot of the top ww and jww out there today.

[Mozza]

And how did you score it? I had the Malignaggi fight 115-112 and the Mosley fight 116-112. Seems to me, at least, that Malignaggi won one more round than Mosley.

Also, not counting the KD, I think Cotto had an easier time with Mosley than he did against Paulie.

BTW, the reason I think Hatton is overrated is because the only significant fight is the win over Kostya. Castillo proved to be unwilling to fight or he got old quick (I'll admit, I thought Castillo would win and I was wrong).

I don't really know what to say to that. You must be the only person on the planet that thinks Cotto-Malignaggi was closer than Cotto-Mosley. Your logic baffles me. You think Hatton is overrated because he only holds signifcant wins over Tszyu and a Castillo who you consider to be shot because of the manner in which he was disposed yet you think Malignaggi is the canine's cojone's because he won, in your opinion, five rounds against Cotto and taught N'dou a boxing lesson.

[eric maldonado]

VERO BEACH, Florida (December 5, 2007) – International Boxing Federation light welterweight champion Paulie “The Magic Man” Malignaggi took a break from his Vero Beach training camp, where he’s preparing for his first title defense January 5 on Showtime Championship Boxing against No. 1 contender Herman “The Black Panther” Ngoudjo (16-1, 9 KOs) at Bally’s Casino in Atlantic City, to play boxing’s version of “The Name Game..”

The outspoken Brooklyn boxer, rated No. 2 by The Ring, commented on some of the top welterweights and light welterweights in the world:

Floyd Mayweather: “The best pound-for-pound in boxing today, maybe ever. He dominates and is definitely the smartest boxer.”

Ricky Hatton: “Workmanlike but a little overrated. He’s not great but is a good fighter who is tough and a worker. He’s overrated in that some believe he’s the best.”

Miguel Cotto: “One of the best pound-for-pound fighters in the world today -- very powerful, strong, hungry and determined.”

Julio Cesar Chavez, Jr.: “I didn’t see his last fight but he surprised me by beating (Ray) Sanchez, who I know from the amateurs. Chavez came back from being down on two cards to stop Sanchez. Maybe, he has gotten a little better.”

Herman Ngoudjo: “Another workmanlike fighter but not the same as Gavin Rees because he doesn’t throw as many punches. What you see is what you get with him. He’s a former Olympian and I expect him to come into our fight at 100-percent. He’s never been given anything and has come up the hard way. I’m looking forward to fighting him.”

Junior Witter: “Probably the most dangerous, underrated, unappreciated fighter in boxing. I’d love to meet him in the ring but that’s up to the networks. Witter is definitely the best light welterweight in England.”

Demetrious Hopkins: “Good family pedigree and a solid fighter. He’ll lose his first pro fight in 2008 when he meets Paulie Malignaggi.”

Lovemore N’dou: “The biggest clown in boxing today. He’s like Barnum & Bailey, you see the same show. His recent words and actions make him look even more ****** to the media and fans.”

Gavin Rees: “I’ve watched some clips of his fights and he seems like a rugged fighter who throws a lot of punches. Another workmanlike fighter, but he won’t last too long as a title holder.”

Ricardo Torres: “A strong fighter who can’t fight a lick.”

Timothy Bradley: “I know him from the amateurs. He’s a darkhorse junior welterweight right now and he’ll eventually become a contender in this division.”

Jose Luis Castillo: “Past his prime; a legend in his day.”

Vivian Harris: “Another underappreciated fighter who has been mismanaged. It’s a shame that his loss to Witter has hurt his career so much. It shouldn’t have.”

Kendall Holt: “A solid fighter who could become world champion. He’s had a couple of bad breaks. It’s all up to him. He has all of the physical tools but, mentally, he has to overcome negativity and setbacks. If he can overcome that he can be world champion.”

i agree i think harris and holt r good boxers and would give hatton problems and paulie and witter would beat hatton

[PRboxingfan]

I don't really know what to say to that. You must be the only person on the planet that thinks Cotto-Malignaggi was closer than Cotto-Mosley. Your logic baffles me. You think Hatton is overrated because he only holds signifcant wins over Tszyu and a Castillo who you consider to be shot because of the manner in which he was disposed yet you think Malignaggi is the canine's cojone's because he won, in your opinion, five rounds against Cotto and taught N'dou a boxing lesson.

Yeah, pretty much. Who else on his resume is worth talking about? His record is inflated and he beat a 36-year old, injured Tszyu and a 33-year old Castillo who was being screwed for money and wasn't really that interested in the fight during the fight.

I'm sure you can admit that a fighter's stock can rise even in a loss. Malignaggi showed he can hang with the top tier in the Jr. WW division by hanging with Cotto (Cotto and Hatton were the two best at the weight at the time).

[eric maldonado]

i agree with everything you said, except i don't think hatton is overrated. yeah, he's got a padded record and his only significant wins were tzsyu and collazo (debatable, but still a win), and do think mayweather will beat him easier than a lot of people would like to admit, but hatton's got the skills to beat a lot of the top ww and jww out there today.

i don't think hatton can beat any welterweight

[eric maldonado]

And Hatton can't? Don't be so ******. And besides, Cotto didn't win that fight by boxing Malignaggi.

hatton can't box and he has no defense paulie would jab him all day long

[Mozza]

Yeah, pretty much. Who else on his resume is worth talking about? His record is inflated and he beat a 36-year old, injured Tszyu and a 33-year old Castillo who was being screwed for money and wasn't really that interested in the fight during the fight.

I'm sure you can admit that a fighter's stock can rise even in a loss. Malignaggi showed he can hang with the top tier in the Jr. WW division by hanging with Cotto (Cotto and Hatton were the two best at the weight at the time).

I don't see how Malignaggi's stock can rise having beat nobody while Hatton's is in question having beat two top tier fighters and a number of other world title level operators

[Mozza]

hatton can't box and he has no defense paulie would jab him all day long

Yeah, add Hatton to the long list of guys who can't box and have no defense yet have won boxing world titles in two weight divisions.

[rj_ct]

I don't see how Malignaggi's stock can rise having beat nobody while Hatton's is in question having beat two top tier fighters and a number of other world title level operators

i see what you're saying. hatton can definitely box. i've been saying it for awhile now, his hand speed and combinations are really underrated. but he's not a pure boxer, which i think is what the other dude is saying. and i think any young, hungry, fast, slick boxer, gives hatton all sorts of hell.