Mayweather has it right

[boxingtragic]

Its all about the odds.

Oh Ray Ray,,,where are you?

Its all about the odds.
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[sonofisis]

Margarito offered 8 million good reasons to fight him. Floyd said "no way, Jose." Do you really think Floyd would EVER subject himself to the prospect of being on the receiving end of Margarito's power? Seriously man. Floyd will never fight Margarito. Just like he' already negated the idea of fighting Cotto. I suspect we will never see him fight Williams either.

Margarito got beat up by Williams, yet he is still relied on for convenience. Please show an article which states that Mayweather was offered a fight with Margarito before the Judah proposition? Cotto already ran from Floyd at 140 after he saw what Floyd did to Gatti and Arum wanted him to hold out for a couple of more years. Mayweather doesn't need to wait hand and foot on your saviors to be proven since it is the opposite.

All those guys are too risky to the precious undefeated record. Shoot, he wouldn't even be taking Hatton on but for the fact that he underrated Hatton.

He doesn't underrate anybody and if anything, he underrates Cotto (going by this logic) and the like even more since he let Ricky get to him, while he brushes off the likes of Cotto, etc. Your logic is flimsy.

It's the same concept regarding Floyd dropping the 154 belt right after winning it from ODH. He dropped it and retired, rather than ******ly trying to defend that belt against the likes of Vernon Forrest.

Why would he do that? How can you criticize someone for not being "******" and not staying at a weight where he definitely doesn't belong and couldn't even make (he was 150). You are a mad man Wiley.

lol Floyd is just looking for a graceful way to make an exit with his undefeated record.

And he'll have it. He was already set after he beat DLH, his legacy is sealed. The only thing people like Cotto or Williams can do is slightly upgrade it, but not too much. It isn't like a Hagler win from SRL or like Ali beating Foreman. It's just Floyd beating another contender.

[eric maldonado]

if you read the link..it says he was negotiating with Baldo ..after Baldo beat Judah..

but they fell through so he fought Judah anyways...DOES THE TRUTH HURT??

he wasnt obligated to fight Judah, but he did, someone who just lost to A 16-1 UNDERDOG, 35 YR OLD JOURNEY MAN....

zab never got knocked out nor was he dominated he lost the fight because he got hurt and stoped fighting baldomir did not beat him up

[eric maldonado]

Margarito got beat up by Williams, yet he is still relied on for convenience. Please show an article which states that Mayweather was offered a fight with Margarito before the Judah proposition? Cotto already ran from Floyd at 140 after he saw what Floyd did to Gatti and Arum wanted him to hold out for a couple of more years. Mayweather doesn't need to wait hand and foot on your saviors to be proven since it is the opposite.



He doesn't underrate anybody and if anything, he underrates Cotto (going by this logic) and the like even more since he let Ricky get to him, while he brushes off the likes of Cotto, etc. Your logic is flimsy.




Why would he do that? How can you criticize someone for not being "******" and not staying at a weight where he definitely doesn't belong and couldn't even make (he was 150). You are a mad man Wiley.



And he'll have it. He was already set after he beat DLH, his legacy is sealed. The only thing people like Cotto or Williams can do is slightly upgrade it, but not too much. It isn't like a Hagler win from SRL or like Ali beating Foreman. It's just Floyd beating another contender.

cotto never ran from floyd

[sonofisis]

if you read the link..it says he was negotiating with Baldo ..after Baldo beat Judah..

I don't care! Provide a link that states that there was an offered from Margarito, before Judah.

but they fell through so he fought Judah anyways...DOES THE TRUTH HURT??

The truth is that you have no point.

he wasnt obligated to fight Judah, but he did, someone who just lost to A 16-1 UNDERDOG, 35 YR OLD JOURNEY MAN....

Which most people thought was a fluke. Floyd ain't have to fight anybody, he did it because the Judah fight was already in the works, he was still getting more money, Judah still had the IBF, and they also saw the Baldy loss as a fluke. The main point being that he still fought Baldy and beat him anyways, so please, what the hell is your dumb ass point?

cotto never ran from floyd

I have documents that explicitly state that Cotto wasn't going to be ready for Mayweather for another year and a half after Mayweather beat Gatti. This is from Arum.

[Wiley Hyena]

Margarito got beat up by Williams, yet he is still relied on for convenience. Please show an article which states that Mayweather was offered a fight with Margarito before the Judah proposition? Cotto already ran from Floyd at 140 after he saw what Floyd did to Gatti and Arum wanted him to hold out for a couple of more years. Mayweather doesn't need to wait hand and foot on your saviors to be proven since it is the opposite.



He doesn't underrate anybody and if anything, he underrates Cotto (going by this logic) and the like even more since he let Ricky get to him, while he brushes off the likes of Cotto, etc. Your logic is flimsy.




Why would he do that? How can you criticize someone for not being "******" and not staying at a weight where he definitely doesn't belong and couldn't even make (he was 150). You are a mad man Wiley.



And he'll have it. He was already set after he beat DLH, his legacy is sealed. The only thing people like Cotto or Williams can do is slightly upgrade it, but not too much. It isn't like a Hagler win from SRL or like Ali beating Foreman. It's just Floyd beating another contender.

I just don't discredit Margarito for losing one fight to Paul Williams. That's another give away in your biased logic.

And, Floyd has already negated the idea of fighting Cotto...throwing out the Arum excuse. That's a fact.

Yes, Floyd can retire undefeated if he beats Hatton. And, I expect he will do so rather than have to actually take a fight. His legacy will be forever tarnished in stone too. Mark my words.

But, he does have to get by Hatton first, right? Saturday night is going to be interesting, indeed.

[eric maldonado]

I don't care! Provide a link that states that there was an offered from Margarito, before Judah.



The truth is that you have no point.



Which most people thought was a fluke. Floyd ain't have to fight anybody, he did it because the Judah fight was already in the works, he was still getting more money, Judah still had the IBF, and they also saw the Baldy loss as a fluke. The main point being that he still fought Baldy and beat him anyways, so please, what the hell is your dumb ass point?



I have documents that explicitly state that Cotto wasn't going to be ready for Mayweather for another year and a half. This is from Arum.

thats arum not cotto.cotto claimed before he fought shane that he would like to fight floyd

[Wiley Hyena]

I don't care! Provide a link that states that there was an offered from Margarito, before Judah.



The truth is that you have no point.



Which most people thought was a fluke. Floyd ain't have to fight anybody, he did it because the Judah fight was already in the works, he was still getting more money, Judah still had the IBF, and they also saw the Baldy loss as a fluke. The main point being that he still fought Baldy and beat him anyways, so please, what the hell is your dumb ass point?



I have documents that explicitly state that Cotto wasn't going to be ready for Mayweather for another year and a half after Mayweather beat Gatti. This is from Arum.

But, Cotto never had an OFFER to fight Floyd. If so, then show us your proof. The fact is that Cotto never ran from Floyd at all. In fact, if anybody is running, it's Floyd, who has already said he won't fight Cotto. There's your proof.

[sonofisis]

I just don't discredit Margarito for losing one fight to Paul Williams.

Well, I do. It added on to his already 4 losses against scrubs. Williams is the best fighter Margarito has faced (which says a lot), and lost.

That's another give away in your biased logic.

No, ignoring his previous losses while overrating him for things he's never done exposes bias more than anything. I've never overrated Margarito or Floyd. Floyd is merely the best p4p fighter today, while Margarito is a decent fighter who has beaten nothing but bums.

And, Floyd has already negated the idea of fighting Cotto...throwing out the Arum excuse. That's a fact.

That isn't a fact until you can quote it. What IS a fact though is that Arum protected Cotto from Mayweather at 140. This is in writing.

Yes, Floyd can retire undefeated if he beats Hatton. And, I expect he will do so rather than have to actually take a fight. His legacy will be forever tarnished in stone too. Mark my words.

Like I said elsewhere. Over time, hate and envy dissapates as it always does and Floyd will be remembered universally as the best p4p fighter of the 2000's, at the very least.

But, he does have to get by Hatton first, right? Saturday night is going to be interesting, indeed.

He'll get by the midget. If you don't have to worry about anything concerning Floyd, don't worry about that.

[sonofisis]

But, Cotto never had an OFFER to fight Floyd.

Floyd called him out verbally on a few occasions (including after Gatti). Cotto didn't utter a sound. When asked about it, he merely says the same thing.

"It's up to my promoter, blah, blah".. Arum stated that he wasn't ready.

If so, then show us your proof. The fact is that Cotto never ran from Floyd at all. In fact, if anybody is running, it's Floyd, who has already said he won't fight Cotto. There's your proof.

I'll post the article in a minute, since I'm not a liar who makes things up like you. Can you please cite where Mayweather has ducked Cotto though and where he says what you're sloppily paraphrasing? I'm still waiting, since as you know, your word isn't worth an ounce of deer ****.