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  • mrpain81
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    #1

    Has anybody Ever made this comparison before?

    Terry Norris



    Jermain Taylor

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    #2
    Well only the comparison of who I enjoyed getting KTFO, Jacksons job on Norris was just a little funnier.

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      #3
      Originally posted by MaceTheAce
      Well only the comparison of who I enjoyed getting KTFO, Jacksons job on Norris was just a little funnier.
      You dont see the comparison on the style they both employed?

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        #4
        Originally posted by mrpain81
        Terry Norris



        Jermain Taylor

        they actually look more alike than anything but Norris was better techinically sound and had the better all around skills than Taylor.

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          Compare what aspect of these fighters; their styles, careers, how they match up?

          Stylewise, Terry Norris was a much more polished fighter than Jermaine (he was an offensive machine), but he suffered for his defense and crystal chin. Norris set the pace of fights with his attack, but was also a sharp counter-puncher. Jermaine generally inches around with his rear foot in a bucket waiting to counter-punch.

          Career-wise, Terry probably won't make it into the HOF, since most of his significant wins have asterisks by them. At a glance his record seems impressive enough with wins over names like Donald Curry, John Mugabi, Meldrick Taylor, Jorge Castro, Sugar Ray Leonard (so sad), but all of those fighters were over the hill, shot or both when Norris got to them. Many of his other big wins were against naturally smaller guys like Mo Blocker and Simon Brown (who also KO'd him). Worst of all he lost and frequently got KTFO by smaller (Brown) or seemingly inferior opponents (Keith Mullings). That, and he never stopped calling out small guys like J.C. Chavez (two weight classes below) who still would have beaten him.

          Jermaine's has some big fights in his career too with his "wins" over Hopkins and his fight with Winky. I think he has so much more to do before anyone considers his ass for the HOF though. Ending B-Hop's middleweight run in the fashion that he did is not enough. I think he has actually gotten worse as a champion (possibly because of Manny Steward). He'll start his road back with a victory over Pavlik (which he can do), but he has to show that he can be a dominant champion. If he beats Pavlik, he'll only have to do it again in the rubbermatch. Even if he does that, he has a long way to go. Unless the Pavlik loss has ruined him as a fighter, though, I suspect that he will retire with a much loftier position than Terrible Terry.

          As far as a match-up between these guys goes, they would never have fought each other. Sure, Jermaine would have hunted Terry down because he likes to fight small guys, but so does Terry,. I can't see Terry taking on a big man like Jermaine. Assuming they did share a ring, it would have ended pretty quickly (probably first round). Of course, I am giving Jermaine the benefit of the doubt that he wouldn't have been such a ***** (a la the Ouma, Spinks fights) and would actually have gone at Terry.

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            #6
            Originally posted by NachoMan
            Compare what aspect of these fighters; their styles, careers, how they match up?

            Stylewise, Terry Norris was a much more polished fighter than Jermaine (he was an offensive machine), but he suffered for his defense and crystal chin. Norris set the pace of fights with his attack, but was also a sharp counter-puncher. Jermaine generally inches around with his rear foot in a bucket waiting to counter-punch.

            Career-wise, Terry probably won't make it into the HOF, since most of his significant wins have asterisks by them. At a glance his record seems impressive enough with wins over names like Donald Curry, John Mugabi, Meldrick Taylor, Jorge Castro, Sugar Ray Leonard (so sad), but all of those fighters were over the hill, shot or both when Norris got to them. Many of his other big wins were against naturally smaller guys like Mo Blocker and Simon Brown (who also KO'd him). Worst of all he lost and frequently got KTFO by smaller (Brown) or seemingly inferior opponents (Keith Mullings). That, and he never stopped calling out small guys like J.C. Chavez (two weight classes below) who still would have beaten him.

            Jermaine's has some big fights in his career too with his "wins" over Hopkins and his fight with Winky. I think he has so much more to do before anyone considers his ass for the HOF though. Ending B-Hop's middleweight run in the fashion that he did is not enough. I think he has actually gotten worse as a champion (possibly because of Manny Steward). He'll start his road back with a victory over Pavlik (which he can do), but he has to show that he can be a dominant champion. If he beats Pavlik, he'll only have to do it again in the rubbermatch. Even if he does that, he has a long way to go. Unless the Pavlik loss has ruined him as a fighter, though, I suspect that he will retire with a much loftier position than Terrible Terry.

            As far as a match-up between these guys goes, they would never have fought each other. Sure, Jermaine would have hunted Terry down because he likes to fight small guys, but so does Terry,. I can't see Terry taking on a big man like Jermaine. Assuming they did share a ring, it would have ended pretty quickly (probably first round). Of course, I am giving Jermaine the benefit of the doubt that he wouldn't have been such a ***** (a la the Ouma, Spinks fights) and would actually have gone at Terry.
            Good post

            I was talking more about the the style, they both had that big over hand right, and seemed to box in the same way. Norris was a more polished and had really great combinations, I dissagree that he wont make it into the HOF. He was considered pretty high on the P4P ranking for awhile and it seems they are willing to let almost anyone in after a few years.

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              Originally posted by NachoMan
              Compare what aspect of these fighters; their styles, careers, how they match up?

              Stylewise, Terry Norris was a much more polished fighter than Jermaine (he was an offensive machine), but he suffered for his defense and crystal chin. Norris set the pace of fights with his attack, but was also a sharp counter-puncher. Jermaine generally inches around with his rear foot in a bucket waiting to counter-punch.

              Career-wise, Terry probably won't make it into the HOF, since most of his significant wins have asterisks by them. At a glance his record seems impressive enough with wins over names like Donald Curry, John Mugabi, Meldrick Taylor, Jorge Castro, Sugar Ray Leonard (so sad), but all of those fighters were over the hill, shot or both when Norris got to them. Many of his other big wins were against naturally smaller guys like Mo Blocker and Simon Brown (who also KO'd him). Worst of all he lost and frequently got KTFO by smaller (Brown) or seemingly inferior opponents (Keith Mullings). That, and he never stopped calling out small guys like J.C. Chavez (two weight classes below) who still would have beaten him.

              Jermaine's has some big fights in his career too with his "wins" over Hopkins and his fight with Winky. I think he has so much more to do before anyone considers his ass for the HOF though. Ending B-Hop's middleweight run in the fashion that he did is not enough. I think he has actually gotten worse as a champion (possibly because of Manny Steward). He'll start his road back with a victory over Pavlik (which he can do), but he has to show that he can be a dominant champion. If he beats Pavlik, he'll only have to do it again in the rubbermatch. Even if he does that, he has a long way to go. Unless the Pavlik loss has ruined him as a fighter, though, I suspect that he will retire with a much loftier position than Terrible Terry.

              As far as a match-up between these guys goes, they would never have fought each other. Sure, Jermaine would have hunted Terry down because he likes to fight small guys, but so does Terry,. I can't see Terry taking on a big man like Jermaine. Assuming they did share a ring, it would have ended pretty quickly (probably first round). Of course, I am giving Jermaine the benefit of the doubt that he wouldn't have been such a ***** (a la the Ouma, Spinks fights) and would actually have gone at Terry.
              Hate to break it to you, but Norris is already in the Hall of Fame.

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              • JakeNDaBox
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                the common factor between the two is that both built up their names beating up smaller, more faded fighters. Norris was the world's best junior middleweight beating the **** outta welterweights, while middleweight prospect-turned-contender-turned champion Taylor never met a junior middleweight he didn't want to outweigh by 20 lb. on fight night.

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                  JakeNDaBox,

                  Hah! That shows what I know. What year did he make it in? The last time I attended an induction was back in the early 90's (for Hagler). I'm starting to feel old.

                  I don't mean to slam Norris too much. I was actually a pretty big Terry Norris fan. He was an excellent fighter (better than his bro). As Mr. Pain says he was considered a p4p fighter for a decent stretch. I just wondered about his overall achievement, but that is all moot now that I realize that he's already in. Congratulations to him.

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