Americans....

[purecyse]

corrupt reffing robbed Ricky, just as it did Amir in Washington...US boxing needs to come into the 21st century where objectivity and fairness prevails

they damn near handed Hopkins a win over Calzaghe too, but Joe butt-****d him in the end

Since you seem to be serious, I'll take the bait...

I took a random round, ended up on the fourth round, and seem to have missed the "corrupt reffing."

I've seen Mayweather creating space with his forearm: illegal. I've also seen Hatton approaching without throwing a punch, holding and pushing Mayweather towards the rope: illegal.

I've seen a couple Hatton headlocks which led to breaks.

Hatton's success has come from getting Mayweather on the ropes, pushing with his open glove and then throwing punches while Mayweather's has come from throwing clean shots when given a little bit of space.

As both did the same thing over and over, this is a microcosm of most of the fight.

This fight actually changed in ROUND 7, when Joe Cortez was only interfering to keep them from completely tying up on the inside. Mayweather began to out-fight Hatton on the inside while still touching him when Hatton was charging in. Most of Mayweather's inside work was bodyshots, btw. Towards the end of that round, you see Mayweather smile. This is an indication that the fight is over in his mind.

Less than a minute into round 8, ANYONE who follows both fighters should also see that the fight is over. Hatton's aggression has been checked. Mayweather is standing his ground when they tie up. Hatton is the one breaking the tie ups and backing up. Mayweather is beginning to throw in combinations (when his focus shifts from defense to trying to beat his opponent up...). Hatton is trying to cover up.

So, when I saw your post, I started at round four and the fight was over by the end of the 7th. Both were doing illegal things with Hatton initiating the holding and eventually getting beat at his own game, I would like for you to point out the corruption, as it must be in the first three rounds.

And the point deduction? It didn't matter as it didn't go to the cards, didn't stop Hatton from rushing in and Mayweather never turned his back like that again so don't reference an isolated incident, if you will.

[4Corners]

Hahahahahahaha and now they say "Floyd cherry picked a small Hatton".

This is the kind of double standard and back tracking I'm talking about in regards to Floyd's career.

[Weebler I]

Since you seem to be serious, I'll take the bait...

I took a random round, ended up on the fourth round, and seem to have missed the "corrupt reffing."

From the first round it was Ricky this, Ricky that with Cortez jumping in every 2 seconds to keep them at a distance which unsurprisingly worked to Floyd's advantage. At one point it was so bad Floyd was looking at Cortez 'like wtf? why you breaking us up now'? The point taken away was just the latest poor decision in 6 rounds of poor and partial refereeing.

Cortez has since been discredited as a ref and there was widespread criticism of his handling of this fight and subsequent fights.

Kudos on being probably the only FMJ fan to recognise he wasn't getting the better of the inside exchanges until the 7th round, but he wouldn't have gotten any advantage on the inside at all if Cortez was not obsessed with needlessly breaking the two fighters up. That's what wore Ricky down as he was getting caught on the way in.

Now, want to discuss Khan v Peterson and Hopkins v Calzaghe?

[AlwaysOnTop]

From the first round it was Ricky this, Ricky that with Cortez jumping in every 2 seconds to keep them at a distance which unsurprisingly worked to Floyd's advantage. At one point it was so bad Floyd was looking at Cortez 'like wtf? why you breaking us up now'? The point taken away was just the latest poor decision in 6 rounds of poor and partial refereeing.

Cortez has since been discredited as a ref and there was widespread criticism of his handling of this fight and subsequent fights.

Kudos on being probably the only FMJ fan to recognise he wasn't getting the better of the inside exchanges until the 7th round, but he wouldn't have gotten any advantage on the inside at all if Cortez was not obsessed with Cortez needlessly breaking the two fighters up. That's what wore Ricky down.

Now, want to discuss Khan v Peterson and Hopkins v Calzaghe?

Joe Cortez > Dave Parris

Breaking them early benefitted Hatton...Ricky admitted Floyd was a lot stronger on the inside than he expected..

Watch the Gamboa-Solido fight as an example..

Joe is quick to break fighters....

[gapo]

Joe Cortez > Dave Parris

Breaking them early benefitted Hatton...Ricky admitted Floyd was a lot stronger on the inside than he expected..

Watch the Gamboa-Solido fight as an example..

Joe is quick to break fighters....

Joe also tends not to look when he breaks them up. If one is smart,,, throw a left hook. Then a straight left to a southpaw. If finishes a fight.

[AlwaysOnTop]

Joe also tends not to look when he breaks them up. If one is smart,,, throw a left hook. Then a straight left to a southpaw. If finishes a fight.

Ortiz took the fight in that direction with his lunging head-butt you oily haters seem to ignore..

How would Duran or Chavez had reacted to getting butted so flagrantly??

Maybe by using THEM as an example will help you understand the situation better..

[gapo]

Ortiz took the fight in that direction with his lunging head-butt you oily haters seem to ignore..

How would Duran or Chavez had reacted to getting butted so flagrantly??

Maybe by using THEM as an example will help you understand the situation better..

Joe had ref big fights more than once in his career. If you are telling me he did not know what to do after the foul. Then you are are a fool. Split seconds counts in big fights. Go find a commissioner to agree with you.

[Sweet Pea 50]

Never said Hatton wasn't game.

[purecyse]

From the first round it was Ricky this, Ricky that with Cortez jumping in every 2 seconds to keep them at a distance which unsurprisingly worked to Floyd's advantage. At one point it was so bad Floyd was looking at Cortez 'like wtf? why you breaking us up now'? The point taken away was just the latest poor decision in 6 rounds of poor and partial refereeing.

Cortez has since been discredited as a ref and there was widespread criticism of his handling of this fight and subsequent fights.

Kudos on being probably the only FMJ fan to recognise he wasn't getting the better of the inside exchanges until the 7th round, but he wouldn't have gotten any advantage on the inside at all if Cortez was not obsessed with needlessly breaking the two fighters up. That's what wore Ricky down as he was getting caught on the way in.

Now, want to discuss Khan v Peterson and Hopkins v Calzaghe?

I just can't say it was bad reffing. Hatton fights have tie ups where too much time goes by without a punch while he maneuvers his opponent into position. It leads to VERY ugly fights.

The Mayweather fight was reduced to just ugly, which still benefited Hatton much more than Mayweather.

Cortez reduced extended tie ups, which could be better labeled as constant clinching/ hugging, but still allowed Hatton to wrestle and move Mayweather to the ropes.

Mayweather made him pay to get in and began to break him down on the inside. In fact, if you watch Cortez towards the second half of the fight, he's often pulling down Mayweather's glove from behind Hatton's left armpit.

In a way, I think Hatton came in a bit too arrogant. Too much talk about what Kostya Tszyu couldn't do to him while Billy Graham was trying to warn him to respect Mayweather's power.

Khan/ Peterson? I thought Khan, and his fans, should be less than proud at how he fought. I felt that when Khan started back-pedaling and pushing while Peterson adjusted his initial tactics and began to sc**** Khan along the ropes that it was Peterson's fight. I was surprised the fight was that close on the cards and on this board. It was clear Peterson was dominating that fight physically and the same people who thought the Khan/ Maidana fight was close with Maidana doing the exact thing Peterson was suddenly switched up. This fight also had a lot of rough tactics for boxers of their pedigree. Khan was pushing and pulling Peterson's head down to put an elbow on his neck but a couple times Peterson used some terrible elbows to hold Khan in place on the ropes.

Calzaghe/ Hopkins? Another fight I can't believe was that close. I always felt Calzaghe's workrate would be much too much for just about any fighter that couldn't make him hesitant to throw. Hopkins couldn't. And with that work-rate and the handspeed to go with it, even when his punches don't land, it seems like he's landing on his opponent at record numbers.

[4Corners]

corrupt reffing robbed Ricky, just as it did Amir in Washington...US boxing needs to come into the 21st century where objectivity and fairness prevails

they damn near handed Hopkins a win over Calzaghe too, but Joe butt-****d him in the end

You just compared Mayweather-Hatton to Khan-Peterson I, now I know you're a moron.

Hatton got TKO'd into the ring post, get the f**k over it, and grow up.