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  • sonofisis
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    #111
    Originally posted by the Bender
    true, they are more gifted in sports. but as we all know blacks are very very ****** and don't have much intelligence and thats why us whites rule the entire world as well as own the blacks.


    African civilizations: Ancient Ghana, Mali, Songhai, Timbuktu, Kilwa, Nubia, Axum, Egypt.

    African Immigrants:

    African-born blacks comprise 16 percent of the U.S. foreign-born black population and are considerably more educated than other black immigrants (U.S. Bureau of the Census, 2000). The vast majority comes from minority white countries in East and West Africa (e.g. Kenya and Nigeria), and less than 2 percent originate from North or South Africa (World Factbook 2004; Yearbook of immigration Statistics 2003).

    In an analysis of Census Bureau data by the Journal of Blacks in higher education African immigrants to the United States were found more likely to be college educated than any other immigrant group. African immigrants to the U.S. are also more highly educated than any native-born ethnic group including white Americans (Logan & Deane, 2003; Dixon, 2006; Journal of Blacks in higher education, 1999-2000; Onwudiwe, 2006; Otiso and Smith, 2005; The Economist, 1996). Some 48.9 percent of all African immigrants hold a college diploma. This is slightly more than the percentage of Asian immigrants to the U.S., nearly double the rate of native-born white Americans, and nearly four times the rate of native-born African Americans (The Journal of Blacks in Higher Education, No. 26 (Winter, 1999-2000), pp. 60-61).

    In 1997, 19.4 percent of all adult African immigrants in the United States held a graduate degree, compared to 8.1 percent of adult whites and 3.8 percent of adult blacks in the United States, respectively (The Journal of Blacks in Higher Education, No. 26 (Winter, 1999-2000), pp. 60-61). This information suggests that America has an equally large achievement gap between whites and African immigrants as there is between white and black Americans.

    The Canadian sociological literature on immigrants also paints a similar picture, however, less stark. All visible-minority immigrant groups whether from the Caribbean or India do better academically than their native born (non-visible) cohorts, on average. Both foreign-born and Canadian-born blacks have graduation rates that exceed those of other Canadians. Similar patters of educational over-achievements are reached with years of schooling and with data from the 1994 Statistics Canada survey. (Guppy and Davies, 1998; Boyd, 2002).

    In the UK, 1988, the Commission for Racial Equality conducted an investigation on the admissions practices of St. George's, and other medical colleges, who set aside a certain number of places for minority students. This informal quota system reflected the percentage of ********** in the general population. However, minority students with Chinese, Indian, or black African heritage had higher academic qualifications for university admission than did whites (Blacks in Britain from the West Indies had far lower academic credentials than did whites). In fact, blacks with African origins over the age of 30 had the highest educational qualifications of any ethnic group in the British Isles. Thus, the evidence pointed to the fact that minority quotas for University admissions were actually working against students from these ethnic groups who were on average more qualified for higher education than their white peers (Cross, 1994; Also see, C, Dustmann, N, Theodoropoulos, 2006).

    According to the report The State of Working Britain, published by the Centre for Economic Performance at the highly regarded London School of Economics, 21 % of adult blacks in Britain with African origins have a university degree. Only 14 percent of adult white Britons are college educated. It has also been shown that black immigrants from Africa earn more money than do native born white Britons (C, Dustmann, N, Theodoropoulos, 2006):

    Of the African-born population in the United States age 25 and older 86.4% reported having a high school degree or higher, compared with 78. 9% of Asian born immigrants and 76.5% of European born immigrants, respectively. These figures contrast with 61.8% percent of the total foreign-born population. Immigrants groups in general tend to have higher high school graduation rates than the native-born general American population.

    Those Africans born from Zimbabwe (96.7 percent), Botswana (95.5 percent), and Malawi (95 percent) were the most likely to report having a high school degree or higher. Those born in Cape Verde (44.8 percent), Mauritania (60.8 percent), and Somalia (63.3 percent) were the least likely to report having completed a high school education (Dixon, D., 2006)..

    Of the European born those born in Bulgaria (92.6 percent), Switzerland (90.5 percent), and Ireland (90.4 percent) were the most likely to report having a high school degree or higher. Those born in Portugal (42.9 percent), Italy (53.7 percent), and Greece (59.9 percent) were the least likely to report having completed a high school education (Dixon, D., 2006).

    Of the Asian born Mongolia (94.8 percent), Kuwait (94.7 percent), the United Arab Emirates (94.5 percent), and Qatar (94.3 percent) were most likely to report having a high school degree or higher. Those born in Laos (48.1 percent), Cambodia (48.4 percent), and Yemen (49.9 percent) were the least likely to report having completed a high school education (Dixon, D., 2006).. (Most people think the Asian group includes Orientals exclusively, this is not true)

    Dodoo (1997) finds that while African immigrants are indeed the most educated of black groups in the U.S., he finds a negative return on African immigrants’ education attainment for diplomas obtained outside the United States. However, the same does not hold true for Caribbean immigrants. Although he finds that among blacks – native and immigrants – Africans earn the most, when earning-related endowments such as educational attainments are included in the analysis, this expected African advantage disappears (Dodoo, 1997).

    The African born and Employment:

    The African born are concentrated in management or professional and sales or office-related occupations. Of the employed population age 16 and older in the civilian labor force, the African born were much more likely than the foreign born in general to work in management and professional occupations as well as sales and office occupations. Additionally, the African born were less likely to work in service, production, transportation, material moving, construction, and maintenance occupations than the foreign born in general.

    Ethiopians, Sudanese and Somalis, who mostly immigrate as refugees, do not do as well as their counterparts from English speaking African countries such as Nigeria, Egypt and Kenya. The reason was because most people from the three countries immigrate to the United States as refugees and asylum seekers, following crises in their home countries (Otiso and Smith, 2005).

    Source Materials:

    African Immigrants in the United States are the Nation's Most Highly Educated Group. The Journal of Blacks in Higher Education, No. 26 (Winter, 1999-2000), pp. 60-61doi:10.2307/2999156

    African-Born Blacks in the United Kingdom Are Far More Likely than Whites to Hold a College Degree. The Journal of Blacks in Higher Education, No. 34 (Winter, 2001-2002), pp. 29-31 doi:10.2307/3134095

    African-Born U.S. Residents are the Most Highly Educated Group in American Society The Journal of Blacks in Higher Education, No. 13 (Autumn, 1996), pp. 33-34 doi:10.2307/2963153

    Boyd, M. (2002). Educational Attainments of Immigrant Offspring: Success or Segmented Assimilation?

    C, Dustmann, N, Theodoropoulos (2006): Ethnic Minority Immigrants and their Children in Britain. Centre for Research and Analysis of Migration, Department of Economics, University College London

    Cross, T. (1994). Black Africans Now the Most Educated Group in British Society. The Journal of Blacks in Higher Education, No. 3 (spring, 1994), pp.92-93

    Dixon, D. (2006). Characteristics of the European Born in the United States. Migration Policy Institute. February, 2005

    Dixon, D. (2006). Characteristics of the African Born in the United States. Migration Policy Institute. January, 2006

    Dixon, D. (2006). Characteristics of the Asian Born in the United States. Migration Policy Institute. April 2006

    Dodoo, F. N-A (1997). Assimilation differences among Africans in America. Social Forces 76: 527-46

    Gelatt, J. and Dixon, D. (2006). Detailed Characteristics of the Caribbean Born in the United States. Migration Policy Institute. July 2006.

    Gelatt, J. and Dixon, D. (2006). Detailed Characteristics of the South American Born in the United States. Migration Policy Institute. May 2006.

    Guppy, Neil and Scott Davies (1998). Education in Canada: Recent Trends and Future Challenges. Ottawa: Statistics Canada and the Minister of Industry.

    Kefa M. Otiso and Bruce W. Smith, (2005). “Immigration and Economic Restructuring in Ohio’s Cities, 1940-2000”, Ohio Journal of Science, 105 (5): 133-137 December 2005

    Logan, J.R, Deane, G (2003). “Black Diversity in Metropolitan America.” Lewis Mumford Center for Comparative Urban Regional Research University Albany

    Onwudiwe, E. (2006). “Reflections on African Brain Gain Movement.”

    The Economist (1996). 339 (7965): 27-28

    In Educational Attainment, Black Immigrants to the United States Outperform Native-Born White and Black Americans. The Journal of Blacks in Higher Education © 2003 CH II Publishers

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    • DIOS DOMINICANO
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      #112
      Originally posted by denboy
      You can see sonofisis is arguing how Africans could have a physical advantage over others by justifying possible biological factors such as inheritance and evolution.

      Whereas all you seem to want to do is say all other races have physical supremecy over white people.
      Yeah, you're right Den. Those quotes in post # 105 are overtly racist on my part.

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        #113
        Originally posted by catskills23
        i am not american so i wouldnt know this . But have there ever been any great basketball and american footballers who were white?..
        Larry Bird, John Elway, Steve Young. Don't get me wrong here I would say that overall they aren't AS athletic but that doesn't mean they aren't athletic at all.

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          #114
          Originally posted by Mozza
          Hahahahahaha! Good one Dios!
          Mozza...

          It's hilarious. It's always the white guy who works at Wal-Mart talking about "we" own the world.

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            #115
            Originally posted by DIOS DOMINICANO
            Mozza...

            It's hilarious. It's always the white guy who works at Wal-Mart talking about "we" own the world.
            Hahahahaha! Very perceptive observation. I notice that a lot.

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              #116
              Originally posted by DIOS DOMINICANO
              Who's the greatest point guard of all time? Uh, Magic Johnson.
              Was Isiah Thomas a decent point guard?
              Steve Nash has a total of, ummm, ZERO rings.
              Is Bob Gibson one of the greatest pitchers ever?
              Tom Brady is white. The majority of the team is black.

              All great pitchers are white...LOL. The past four Cy Young winmners in the AL: CC Sabathia, Johan Santana, Bartolo Colon, Johan Santana.
              The Boston Red Sox had a history of choking with a roster full of white players. Their roster darkens, and suddenly the curse is lifted. Shocking!!

              Whites are 5x-6x the population of any other minority in the US. So it makes sense that you would see whites as the predominant group in sports.
              Great Point....

              And how many times have you seen Nash get ran off the court by guys like Tony Parker( French), Iverson, Billups, Chris Paul, etc.???

              The greatest baseball player ever is BLACK.....Willie Mays , Hank Aaron..hell you pick.

              The greatest PG ever as you mentioned is black....Magic and second is probly Ishaiah.

              Tom Brady throws to Randy Moss, Donte Stallworth, Ben Watson, Kevin Faulk, Kelly Washington, Jabar Gaffney, Laurence Maroney, Sammy Morris, Chad Jackson and Troy Brown who are all BLACK. Except for one guy Wes Welker who is a 4.7 guy with good hands.

              New Englands O-Line..is all WHITE.

              Catch My Drift.

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                #117
                Originally posted by DIOS DOMINICANO
                Yeah, you're right Den. Those quotes in post # 105 are overtly racist on my part.

                You obviously not going to be overtly racist, anyone can read between the lines and spot the subtext in your posts.

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                  #118
                  Originally posted by nmuburner22
                  Great Point....

                  And how many times have you seen Nash get ran off the court by guys like Tony Parker( French), Iverson, Billups, Chris Paul, etc.???

                  The greatest baseball player ever is BLACK.....Willie Mays , Hank Aaron..hell you pick.

                  The greatest PG ever as you mentioned is black....Magic and second is probly Ishaiah.

                  Tom Brady throws to Randy Moss, Donte Stallworth, Ben Watson, Kevin Faulk, Kelly Washington, Jabar Gaffney, Laurence Maroney, Sammy Morris, Chad Jackson and Troy Brown who are all BLACK. Except for one guy Wes Welker who is a 4.7 guy with good hands.

                  New Englands O-Line..is all WHITE.

                  Catch My Drift.
                  Don't be an idiot, bro. Nash has won the MVP 2 out of the last 3 years and almost won last year. He doesn't get run off the court by anybody.

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                    #119
                    Black folks have a different type of muscle fibre that allows them to run faster and jump higher. There are great white athletes too, Brian Urlacher may be the most athletic linebacker in the NFL.

                    Black fighters are usually more athletic, but they seem to be going soft and lack the hunger in boxing now. The higher weight classes are now dominated by tough,strong athletic white Europeans. Wladimir Klitschko is a very good athlete for a man his size, Calzaghe is a great athlete as well.

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                      #120
                      Originally posted by nmuburner22
                      Great Point....

                      And how many times have you seen Nash get ran off the court by guys like Tony Parker( French), Iverson, Billups, Chris Paul, etc.???

                      The greatest baseball player ever is BLACK.....Willie Mays , Hank Aaron..hell you pick.

                      The greatest PG ever as you mentioned is black....Magic and second is probly Ishaiah.

                      Tom Brady throws to Randy Moss, Donte Stallworth, Ben Watson, Kevin Faulk, Kelly Washington, Jabar Gaffney, Laurence Maroney, Sammy Morris, Chad Jackson and Troy Brown who are all BLACK. Except for one guy Wes Welker who is a 4.7 guy with good hands.

                      New Englands O-Line..is all WHITE.

                      Catch My Drift.
                      you see a lot of fat black o-linemen too..lol

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