Face it, DLH made Sinclair into the draw that he is!

[sonofisis]

At Floyd's age, DLH had already had more PPV's and fought more champions

FACT!


What is it your trying to get at? PBF still hasn't done the numbers Oscar has.

AND THE ONLY REASON WHY HIS NUMBERS ARE ABOUT EQUAL TO OSCARS ARE BECAUSE PPV WASNT SO EXPENSIVE BACK THEN!!!!

Fact!

The numbers are not "about equal". It clearly shows that Floyd did BETTER numbers in his first 4 fights.

here it is

i just posted this in the other thread but to proved you wrong **** it...



FLoyd has done better than anybody in boxing history in thier first 4 PPV....

MY REPOST:

Floyd P.PV fights oNLY HAD 4 PPV fights

Floyd did 350,000 with Judah (2ND PPV)
(http://www.doghouseboxing.com/Chee/Chee0413c06.htm)

Floyd vs. Gatti = 340,000 PPV (1sT ppv)
(http://boxing.about.com/b/2005/07/01...pv-success.htm)

Floyd vs . Carlos Baldomir = 325,000 PPV buys(3Rd PPV)
(http://www.*********.com/*********_2...VefLFmoxo.html)

WHO THE **** sells 325,000 PPV FIGHTING Carlos Baldomir ?

YOU MEAN TO tell me
Cotto vs. Judah
Hopkins vs. Wright
JMM VS. MAB

is less interesting THEN "Floyd vs . Carlos Baldomir"

Carlos badlomir has less personality and Fan base than Miguel Cotto




Floyd vs. Oscar De La Hoya = 2.15 Million PPV buys
(4TH ppv)
(http://boxing.about.com/od/history/a/payperview.htm)

Floyd PPV TOTAL Money after 4 PPV= 167 million (WONT BE TOP)
Out of In any fighter in history 1st four PPV Floyd is the best....Baldomir : $16.3 million
Judah: 15.7 million
Gatti: 15. 3 Million
De La hoya: $120.0 million

Oscar De La Hoya First 4 PPV Total Money
Totol Money: 57.4 Million
1. Rafael Ruelas (5/95) 330,000 buys = $9.9 million
2. Genaro Hernandez (9/95) 220,000 buys = $6.6 million
3. Miguel Angel Gonzalez (1/97) 345,000 buys = $12.1 million
4. Pernell Whitaker (4/97) 720,000 buys = $28.8 million

And if you take away the fourth PPV fight for both OSCAR AND FLOYD ....



Floyd still Wins...


SO PROVED TO ME HOW OSCAR MADE FLOYD....

yes floyd never did those numbers before, but niether has Oscar.....
and in 4 PPV fights FLOYD BEATS OSCAR..........

[Jim Jeffries]

So? He's had bigger fights. Who HAS done bigger numbers than Oscar? Name one fighter. This is a red herring. And please learn how to multiply, Oscar didn't even do 9 times that with Floyd.

Mike Tyson and Evander Holyfield. But you just proved my point that Oscar was the bigger draw, hence more than 50%. And I said that Oscar did more than FLoyd's highest PPV numbers in 9 fights smart guy.

[Ray*]

Look at Oscar's previous PPV numbers and compare them to Floyd's previous PPV numbers smart guy. THERE IS NO COMPARISON. So who do YOU think was the bigger draw that night?

Oscar was the bigger draw yes but he also need PBF to make the 2.4 million homes, Dont try to play down PBF's popularity.

[quntel]

FLoyd has done better than anybody in boxing history in thier first 4 PPV....

MY REPOST:

Floyd P.PV fights oNLY HAD 4 PPV fights

Floyd did 350,000 with Judah (2ND PPV)
(http://www.doghouseboxing.com/Chee/Chee0413c06.htm)

Floyd vs. Gatti = 340,000 PPV (1sT ppv)
(http://boxing.about.com/b/2005/07/01...pv-success.htm)

Floyd vs . Carlos Baldomir = 325,000 PPV buys(3Rd PPV)
(http://www.*********.com/*********_2...VefLFmoxo.html)

WHO THE **** sells 325,000 PPV FIGHTING Carlos Baldomir ?

YOU MEAN TO tell me
Cotto vs. Judah
Hopkins vs. Wright
JMM VS. MAB

is less interesting THEN "Floyd vs . Carlos Baldomir"

Carlos badlomir has less personality and Fan base than Miguel Cotto




Floyd vs. Oscar De La Hoya = 2.15 Million PPV buys
(4TH ppv)
(http://boxing.about.com/od/history/a/payperview.htm)

Floyd PPV TOTAL Money after 4 PPV= 167 million (WONT BE TOP)
Out of In any fighter in history 1st four PPV Floyd is the best....Baldomir : $16.3 million
Judah: 15.7 million
Gatti: 15. 3 Million
De La hoya: $120.0 million

Oscar De La Hoya First 4 PPV Total Money
Totol Money: 57.4 Million
1. Rafael Ruelas (5/95) 330,000 buys = $9.9 million
2. Genaro Hernandez (9/95) 220,000 buys = $6.6 million
3. Miguel Angel Gonzalez (1/97) 345,000 buys = $12.1 million
4. Pernell Whitaker (4/97) 720,000 buys = $28.8 million

And if you take away the fourth PPV fight for both OSCAR AND FLOYD ....



Floyd still Wins...


SO PROVED TO ME HOW OSCAR MADE FLOYD....

yes floyd never did those numbers before, but niether has Oscar.....
and in 4 PPV fights FLOYD BEATS OSCAR..........










ARGUE THAT...........


YOU CAN ONLY JUDGE FLOYD BY WHAT HE HAS DONE.....PERIOD



AND IF YOU SAY P.P.V cost less back then...


THEN FLOYD REALLY BEATS OSCAR BECAUSE MORE PEOPLE PAID MORE TO SEE FLOYD IN HIS FIRST 4 P.P.V FIGHTS THEN OSCAR IN HIS FIRST 4 P.PV FIGHTS

[Jim Jeffries]

YOU CAN ONLY JUDGE FLOYD BY WHAT HE HAS DONE PERIOD...




AND FLOYD HAS HAD ONLY 4 P.P.V fights

SO TO EVALUATE FLOYD VS. OSCAR

YOU LOOK AT

FLOYD FIRST 4 P.P.V FIGHTS

VS.

OSCAR FIRST 4 P.P.V FIGHTS

AND FLOYD WINS BY SOMETHING LIKE

167 MILLION DOLLARS

TO

OSCAR 57.4 MILLIONS DOLLARS


AND EVEN IF WE SAY

FLOYD FIRST 3 P.P.V FIGHTS

VS.

OSCAR FIRST 3 P.P.V FIGHTS


FLOYD STILL WINS....




WHAT IS YOUR ARGUEMENT...

Those numbers have absolutely nothing to do with the argument about who was the bigger draw in the DLH fight. FACT.

[Jim Jeffries]

Oscar was the bigger draw yes

Enough said, well done.

[quntel]

how Do You Even Try To Compare 18 P.p.v Fights To 4 P.p.v Fights ..?


You Can't......


You Can Only Compare Thier First 4 P.p.v Fights


And Numbers Dont Lie.......

[sonofisis]

THE ONLY REASON WHY HIS NUMBERS ARE ABOUT EQUAL TO OSCARS ARE BECAUSE PPV WASNT SO EXPENSIVE BACK THEN!!!!

And this makes absolutely no sense. Oscar has been fighting longer than Floyd and when prices are lower, more people tend to buy, hence, Oscar should have sold MORE (not less) by your logic in his first four ppv appearances.

Mike Tyson and Evander Holyfield.

DLH-Mayweather sold more pal, that was a rhetorical question that I can't believe you answered wrong.

But you just proved my point that Oscar was the bigger draw, hence more than 50%.

I didn't prove anything of the sort.

And I said that Oscar did more than FLoyd's highest PPV numbers in 9 fights smart guy.

Who cares? Floyd's only had four, and has done better in that context paired against Oscar's first four, therefore, it is clear that Oscar didn't "make" Floyd Mayweather since Mayweather's ppv and immediate success was more apparent.

[quntel]

Those numbers have absolutely nothing to do with the argument about who was the bigger draw in the DLH fight. FACT.

HOW DOES THOSE NUMBERS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ARGUEMENT

WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT WHO IS THE BIGGER DRAW...


FLOYD AFTER 4 P.P.V

IS BIGGER THAN

OSCAR AFTER 4 P.P.V


PERIOD.....

NUMBERS DONT LIE...

[sonofisis]

Enough said, well done.

Irrelevant. Thread topic = "Face it, DLH made Sinclair into the draw that he is!", which isn't true. They both propelled each other during DLH-Mayweather (though Oscar was the biggest star), but Oscar didn't make Mayweather a draw, that's a false claim.