Antonio Margarito would slaughter Kermit again?

[slicksouthpaw16]

if you watch the fight, and listen between the early rounds, kermit tells manny his hand is busted. in the early rounds, kermit kept feliciano outside. then after he tells manny his hand is busted, manny said let him come inside, he wont be able to keep this pace up. no one puts that into contention. and you were right, his hand was not broken, but how could either him or manny known that during the fight? you cant diagnose a hand that is wrapped in a glove in the middle of the fight.

did you even watch the fight or just "read" about it? because what you read would be INCORRECT. i dont usually do this, but...

i don't see how you owned me. and i seen the fight plus i read fight articals in my spare time. what you are saying is not the point, the point is that Cintron looked bad against a fighter that he was suppose to blow out and look good against. Mike arnoutis knocked this man out in the first round. if Cinton can't fight with a SORE HAND, this is the wrong sport to be in. do you see Calzaghe, Wlad, Tua, Gatti, Ward, ect even flinch when thier hand is actually broke? he needs to man up.

[crillz]

even in the first fight, Cintron was boxing and doing everything right. its just that his heart gave out in that fight and will again IMO once he fights Williams or Margarito. Cintron broke down because Margarito kept on coming and throwing even after he landed his bigs bombs on him. thats a front runner. if everything is going his way and people crumble under his power, he will be fine, but if someone like Williams or Margarito is still in his face and coming after he even landed power shots, he will break down because he does not want that kind of fight. he want things to go his way. Margarito and Williams are too tough and will give Cintron the fight that he does not want. they will take him into deep waters and drown him. you can't automatically gain heart once you come back and knock out a few bums. the only way that Cintron would save his reputation from that fight, is too beat Margarito. THE MAN that did it to him. beating blown up fighters is not going to cut it. and the toughness, punch volume, height, and gameness of Williams is going to catch up with Cintron in this fight. he still has mental damage from Margarito and it will show once Williams bring that heat. Williams is going to box, tie up on the inside, and stick to his game plan. as long as Williams does not get caught with nothing crazy, he will be fine. but Williams has showed that he is battle tested, has heart, and a great chin. i am confident that my boy Williams will bring it home.

nah you see Cintron was doing a lot of **** wrong, **** that he wont do wrong now that he got Manny Steward with him, see Manny taught him how to Box smartly not just Box, he is the voice in his corner and Kermit listens very well, during a fight Manny can tell him to do something and he will do it 100%, against Margarito he was too willing to fight and exchange but he wasn't destroyed, people make it out to seem like he was obliterated when he simply didn't respond to his calling, he felt like he lost the fight inside, his fire died out in the middle of the fight and it's that simple but it doesn't mean that even then he was the better athlete and fighter, he was it's just a mind game on the inside can **** a fighter up 100% mentally, it can kill a fighters momentum and he was victim of his own doubt, THATS what beat him for real because he COULD have gotten up and continued but simply screamed help me without screaming it..

Williams is a great guy no doubt about it but Kermit will beat him, those pistol punches wont do nothing to a Cintron who is on the move and Paul's willingness to fight on the inside will allow Cintron to have ALL his chances to chop Paul down, mark my words whether it be by decision or TKO Kermit Cintron is going to win the fight, I gave Paul a good enough evaluation but when I saw him fade out late against a hamster on the wheel version of Margarito I thought to myself Kermit wouldn't let that happen to him, Kermit's jab and power would decide this one, Williams is a big guy with irregularly short arms for his frame so Kermit can get on the inside and make him pay with some hard shots, I just see Kermit beating both those guys and I like his position because I see it happening and as is he HAS to beat them to win his true respect, I feel he will do it pretty convincingly too.. 100

[slicksouthpaw16]

nah you see Cintron was doing a lot of **** wrong, **** that he wont do wrong now that he got Manny Steward with him, see Manny taught him how to Box smartly not just Box, he is the voice in his corner and Kermit listens very well, during a fight Manny can tell him to do something and he will do it 100%, against Margarito he was too willing to fight and exchange but he wasn't destroyed, people make it out to seem like he was obliterated when he simply didn't respond to his calling, he felt like he lost the fight inside, his fire died out in the middle of the fight and it's that simple but it doesn't mean that even then he was the better athlete and fighter, he was it's just a mind game on the inside can **** a fighter up 100% mentally, it can kill a fighters momentum and he was victim of his own doubt, THATS what beat him for real because he COULD have gotten up and continued but simply screamed help me without screaming it..

Williams is a great guy no doubt about it but Kermit will beat him, those pistol punches wont do nothing to a Cintron who is on the move and Paul's willingness to fight on the inside will allow Cintron to have ALL his chances to chop Paul down, mark my words whether it be by decision or TKO Kermit Cintron is going to win the fight, I gave Paul a good enough evaluation but when I saw him fade out late against a hamster on the wheel version of Margarito I thought to myself Kermit wouldn't let that happen to him, Kermit's jab and power would decide this one, Williams is a big guy with irregularly short arms for his frame so Kermit can get on the inside and make him pay with some hard shots, I just see Kermit beating both those guys and I like his position because I see it happening and as is he HAS to beat them to win his true respect, I feel he will do it pretty convincingly too.. 100

i see what you are saying. Kermit is a good fighter but i don't think he is ready to compete with the elite while he is still getting over mental damage from the Margarito fight. i have to clear one thing as well, Williams has pop in his punches. he does not get all of those knockouts by smaking his opponents. he has enough to keep Cintron in check and his punch output alone would get to Cintron. The reason why Williams looked feather fisted against Margarito is because he knows that it would have been ****** to try to knock that man out so he stuck to smart boxing. just look at the Mitchell or the Mattysee fight. Once he starts to sit down and crank up those shots, he will have enough to get Cintron out. i have a few questions as well for yall Cintron fans. what good name southpaw has Cintron beat? what top 10 elite name fighter has Cintron beat? what elite fighter period has he beat? anwser these questions and i will take yall seriously. if he have not proved the things that yall say he will do, what fight convinced yall that he will do it? in the Magarito fight, Williams showed me everything that i needed to know. good chin, heart, battle tested, and good stamina while winning a UD. Cintron was stopped by Margarito so he never pasted that test. he still has a lot to prove. and Stewart is a great trainer but he cannot train a fighter to have heart. Williams will fight from a distance, keep his hands moving, and tie up on the inside when Cintron try to fight on the inside. he will take everything away from Cintron and as the rounds go by, he will slowly break Cintrin down mentally. and even if Cintron is doing everything that hes suppose to, i still don't see him beating Margarito. Margarito will once again walk through his shot and break his spirit.

[VIVA MEXICO!!!]

cintron wouldnt last 3 roudns this time.

[mrrupo]

cintron wouldnt last 3 roudns this time.

dude, no one takes you seriously at all. everyone on here hugs someones nuts, im not saying you are the only nuthugger. everyone has their favorite fighter, but most of us are somewhat objective. we offer good arguments to back up our statements. you offer none.

you just say that margarito would kill everyone, that everyone is ducking him, and that he is a warrior and no one else is. Sad.

[crillz]

i see what you are saying. Kermit is a good fighter but i don't think he is ready to compete with the elite while he is still getting over mental damage from the Margarito fight. i have to clear one thing as well, Williams has pop in his punches. he does not get all of those knockouts by smaking his opponents. he has enough to keep Cintron in check and his punch output alone would get to Cintron. The reason why Williams looked feather fisted against Margarito is because he knows that it would have been ****** to try to knock that man out so he stuck to smart boxing. just look at the Mitchell or the Mattysee fight. Once he starts to sit down and crank up those shots, he will have enough to get Cintron out. i have a few questions as well for yall Cintron fans. what good name southpaw has Cintron beat? what top 10 elite name fighter has Cintron beat? what elite fighter period has he beat? anwser these questions and i will take yall seriously. if he have not proved the things that yall say he will do, what fight convinced yall that he will do it? in the Magarito fight, Williams showed me everything that i needed to know. good chin, heart, battle tested, and good stamina while winning a UD. Cintron was stopped by Margarito so he never pasted that test. he still has a lot to prove. and Stewart is a great trainer but he cannot train a fighter to have heart. Williams will fight from a distance, keep his hands moving, and tie up on the inside when Cintron try to fight on the inside. he will take everything away from Cintron and as the rounds go by, he will slowly break Cintrin down mentally. and even if Cintron is doing everything that hes suppose to, i still don't see him beating Margarito. Margarito will once again walk through his shot and break his spirit.

I see what you saying but Cintron is just an overall powerhouse, he basically lost himself that Margarito fight ya feel me he didn't get KTFO he just took an easy route out of that fight, can't really tell why because up to the point it was stopped Cintron was still competitive but he let it die down, he wont do that again.. Williams is a GREAT opponent for Cintron because he will **** with him, unless Cintron has hurt hands he will give Paul EVERYTHING he throws at him and then some, Cintron's height, reach and power will be the difference here, it ain't that Cintron ain't got no heart neither but that just wasn't his night, he was off point and wasn't fighting to the best of his ability, if it was a matter of not having heart he would have never stuck it out with Feliciano for 10 rounds he would have gave in by then, Cintron got heart it's just you can't win a fight that YOU yourself feel you lost already..

Cintron defeated himself due to his confidence that night but thats not to say he's always going to be like that, he's a known threat to anyone who wants to fight him, against Williams all he has to do is fight on the inside and land his best body and head blows, he will eventually hurt Williams, if his right hand doesn't give in then Paul is in for some trouble and it's not even about south paws because when it comes down to it Williams gives up his advantages by fighting so loosely, he throws 1,000 punches a fight meaning he's right there to be hit as well and I don't think he can go a full 12 taking Cintron's right hand, I think if Paul throws enough punches he can deter Kermit for a few rounds and survive but he wont win a decision because for 10 of those piston punches it will only take 3 of Kermit's hits to out do that, I think Cintron wins a decision with Paul touching the canvas a few times but that opinion is one of those "has to happen" things..

I feel u though Paul is a beast but I just don't see him beating Cintron just like I don't see Margarito doing it neither.. 100

[sparked_85]

when he rolled on the floor I was embarrassed for him.

[mrrupo]

I see what you saying but Cintron is just an overall powerhouse, he basically lost himself that Margarito fight ya feel me he didn't get KTFO he just took an easy route out of that fight, can't really tell why because up to the point it was stopped Cintron was still competitive but he let it die down, he wont do that again.. Williams is a GREAT opponent for Cintron because he will **** with him, unless Cintron has hurt hands he will give Paul EVERYTHING he throws at him and then some, Cintron's height, reach and power will be the difference here, it ain't that Cintron ain't got no heart neither but that just wasn't his night, he was off point and wasn't fighting to the best of his ability, if it was a matter of not having heart he would have never stuck it out with Feliciano for 10 rounds he would have gave in by then, Cintron got heart it's just you can't win a fight that YOU yourself feel you lost already..

I think cintron believed in himself up until he got the wicked gash on his eye. no one ever mentions that. i think that effected him a lot. that being said, he was embarrassed in the first margarito fight, but i dont think it happens again.

[slicksouthpaw16]

I see what you saying but Cintron is just an overall powerhouse, he basically lost himself that Margarito fight ya feel me he didn't get KTFO he just took an easy route out of that fight, can't really tell why because up to the point it was stopped Cintron was still competitive but he let it die down, he wont do that again.. Williams is a GREAT opponent for Cintron because he will **** with him, unless Cintron has hurt hands he will give Paul EVERYTHING he throws at him and then some, Cintron's height, reach and power will be the difference here, it ain't that Cintron ain't got no heart neither but that just wasn't his night, he was off point and wasn't fighting to the best of his ability, if it was a matter of not having heart he would have never stuck it out with Feliciano for 10 rounds he would have gave in by then, Cintron got heart it's just you can't win a fight that YOU yourself feel you lost already..

Cintron defeated himself due to his confidence that night but thats not to say he's always going to be like that, he's a known threat to anyone who wants to fight him, against Williams all he has to do is fight on the inside and land his best body and head blows, he will eventually hurt Williams, if his right hand doesn't give in then Paul is in for some trouble and it's not even about south paws because when it comes down to it Williams gives up his advantages by fighting so loosely, he throws 1,000 punches a fight meaning he's right there to be hit as well and I don't think he can go a full 12 taking Cintron's right hand, I think if Paul throws enough punches he can deter Kermit for a few rounds and survive but he wont win a decision because for 10 of those piston punches it will only take 3 of Kermit's hits to out do that, I think Cintron wins a decision with Paul touching the canvas a few times but that opinion is one of those "has to happen" things..

I feel u though Paul is a beast but I just don't see him beating Cintron just like I don't see Margarito doing it neither.. 100

i feel what u saying . we both made some good points. im tired now but i'll respond to this post when i wake up...LOL