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  • #91
    Originally posted by Da Truth 35 View Post
    Yes Cintron was unimpressive but maybe it was Stewards idea to take it easy and get some work in and then go for the kill he told Kermit to calm down a few times and then said to go for it beacuse he couldnt keep up.
    LOL! do you know how nervous Steward was in between rounds?

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    • #92
      Originally posted by Chicago View Post
      Great comeback dip****.
      rich real rich. nice one FUDGE PACKER!!!

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      • #93
        Originally posted by mrrupo View Post
        awww, you are correct sir, but wlad was a lot more experienced for the second brewster fight than what cintron was going into that fight. up until that fight, cintron was his right hand. cintron had no jab in the marg fight, or at least didnt trust to use his jab. wlad has a huge jab. i would think that you, a wlad fan, would be more forgiving after some of the terrible performances your man put in.

        as far as points, i have a 12,500 bet with someone else, but i will bet the rest with you, sure. put it in your sig.
        See the thing that irked the **** outta me was that he really didn't use his jab last night either. I was screaming at the TV for him to start using his jab to set some distance between him and Feliciano allowing him the opportunity to set up some combinations. It's like that confidence to utilize the jab still isn't there. Maybe it's me also, but I wasn't seeing much heart in Cintron either...maybe it was overshadowed by the overwhelming heart that Feliciano showed, maybe I just expected so much from him based on the odds in his favor, maybe a little of column A and little of column B. I dunno, I'm not gonna give up on Cintron yet but he really needs to stop relying solely on his power. As seen, once you find someone who can take your best shots and keep coming for more, with that being your only plan, you're ****ed. Cintron needs to start developing that plan B (establishing that jab with more respect to a boxing mentality rather than puncher's mentality) immediately.

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        • #94
          Originally posted by slicksouthpaw16 View Post
          LOL! do you know how nervous Steward was in between rounds?
          Lol i diddnt even recognize he was quiet i thought he would be screaming like he did to Taylor for being an idiot.

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          • #95
            Originally posted by slicksouthpaw16 View Post
            what????? Feliciano's name is not as big as emanual agustas. i wouldn't even put in the same sentence as him. and Williams has been battle tested. hes proved that he has heart with Margarito and Walter Matthyse. but of course that was when Matthyse was undefeated and a hot prospect. everyone knows that his spirit was broke when he was Tko'ed by Williams. when Cintron fought him, he was basically done and was not hungry any more. Plus, if Matthyse actually warmed up and got into his game when he fought Cintron, he would have probably beaten Cintron. Cintron can't hang with fighters's like Paul Williams that would stick around even after he landed his power shots. and again, who cares about his sore right hand. Wlad, Baldimer, Gatti, Ward, Calzaghe, Agustas, ect never even flinch when thier hand is actually broke. Cintron's hand is not even broke. why? because he is soft. and don't even let me start about you saying Feliciano would beat Williams. don't be ******ed. not only was that ******, but it proves my point that you are trying to raise Cintron's stock. so thanks for proving my point.
            Read what I said...

            Here we go again, you need to face the facts, Williams has been rocked by non punchers, he will not stand and take Cintron's shots.

            LOL, was him? If Matthyse would've won that fight, you think Williams fans would say the same after the result? Now all of a sudden a fighter who has lost one fight is done because "his spirit has been broken"? Ever heard about Gatti?

            Estrada had a harder chin than Williams and a high work rate, the difference is Williams is a lefty who keeps his deffense, perfect distance to land that money punch on him.

            Not sure where you going with this? Are you questioning Cintron's tolerance to pain or his heart? If its pain, how much was it, I dunno your the expert. If its about heart, its questionable, he found ways to win with one hand, was "battle tested" against Estrada, did ok there and folded under Margarito. You saying Williams will stop him in 11, lets bet all our points he won't.

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            • #96
              Originally posted by gerardofpr View Post
              Read what I said...

              Here we go again, you need to face the facts, Williams has been rocked by non punchers, he will not stand and take Cintron's shots.

              I want examples of him being "rocked". Specific ones. The punch(es) and the round.

              LOL, was him? If Matthyse would've won that fight, you think Williams fans would say the same after the result? Now all of a sudden a fighter who has lost one fight is done because "his spirit has been broken"? Ever heard about Gatti?

              Not everybody is Gatti. Some guys don't recover from big losses easily.

              Estrada had a harder chin than Williams and a high work rate, the difference is Williams is a lefty who keeps his deffense, perfect distance to land that money punch on him.
              There you Cintron nutlickers go questioning Paul's chin again. Keep reaching. Estrada's workrate is not comparable to Williams. Let me know when he throws 1300 punches in a fight. Williams fights at many distances. He as good inside as he is outside. Comparing Estrada to Williams was saddening to read.

              Not sure where you going with this? Are you questioning Cintron's tolerance to pain or his heart? If its pain, how much was it, I dunno your the expert. If its about heart, its questionable, he found ways to win with one hand, was "battle tested" against Estrada, did ok there and folded under Margarito. You saying Williams will stop him in 11, lets bet all our points he won't.

              At least you admit your boy has heart problems. Estrada is a ****ing terrible comparison to Paul Williams. That is out-of-line to even vaguely suggest he is.

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              • #97
                well, woulnd't any1 here base their verdict on the fact that cintron lost to margarito and margarito lost to williams, therefore cintron should lose to williams?

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by gerardofpr View Post
                  Read what I said...

                  Here we go again, you need to face the facts, Williams has been rocked by non punchers, he will not stand and take Cintron's shots.

                  LOL, was him? If Matthyse would've won that fight, you think Williams fans would say the same after the result? Now all of a sudden a fighter who has lost one fight is done because "his spirit has been broken"? Ever heard about Gatti?

                  Estrada had a harder chin than Williams and a high work rate, the difference is Williams is a lefty who keeps his deffense, perfect distance to land that money punch on him.

                  Not sure where you going with this? Are you questioning Cintron's tolerance to pain or his heart? If its pain, how much was it, I dunno your the expert. If its about heart, its questionable, he found ways to win with one hand, was "battle tested" against Estrada, did ok there and folded under Margarito. You saying Williams will stop him in 11, lets bet all our points he won't.
                  again, what convinces you that Estrada has a harder chin than Williams. nothing because Williams has never been knocked out so that makes no sense. Estrada has been knocked out twice. and again, Cintron struggled with Feliciano and Feliciano was knocked out by Arnoutis at a lower weight. and again about the hand, his hand IS NOT BROKE, so what if he fought with one hand? he is soft. and why would you even compare Matthyse to Gatti. there are only a few fighters like Gatti so why would you compare him to a softy weak minded fighter like Matthyse. his spirit broke easily when Williams beat him because he was embarrassed and TKO'ed for the first time. would you be the same after that? you are also incorrect about Williams being rocked. hes never been rocked. only stunned. trust me, i have followed him since hes been televised on tv. and look at the many times i have said again. im just repeating myself over and over. when you post a response to this just look back at my other posts because i will just say the same thing over again. and i will gladly make a bet that Williams beat Cintron. and why would you actually get mad over a post on the internet? (the negative reputation) this is a debate, people say things to get under the other poster's skin. so i see that i got under yours.
                  Last edited by slicksouthpaw16; 11-25-2007, 06:39 AM.

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by Matt Marvelous View Post
                    I want examples of him being "rocked". Specific ones. The punch(es) and the round.




                    Not everybody is Gatti. Some guys don't recover from big losses easily.



                    There you Cintron nutlickers go questioning Paul's chin again. Keep reaching. Estrada's workrate is not comparable to Williams. Let me know when he throws 1300 punches in a fight. Williams fights at many distances. He as good inside as he is outside. Comparing Estrada to Williams was saddening to read.




                    At least you admit your boy has heart problems. Estrada is a ****ing terrible comparison to Paul Williams. That is out-of-line to even vaguely suggest he is.
                    Go get them yourself sweetie, specifically in the Sharmba and Matthyse fight, I bet you have them...

                    I think Estrada has the better chin and is a busy fighter as well, sorry if that hurts your feelings.

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                    • he won't destroy him.... just give him a boxing lesson to win a decision

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