Which Win is greater?

[THe TRiNiTY]

jesus chavez was juch more dangerous than juarez and has acieved more.....

Mraquez pretty much dominated Barrera so i dont see how he gets credit for that.....

Morales wanted JMM in 2004...when Marquez was with TopRank...its not his fault Marquez didnt take the fight...

Morales' losses to Pacquiao were pretty much cus he was shot, he shouldve retired after losing to Raheem.....and he still shouldve gotten the decision vs David Diaz in his last fight......


MAB only get credit for the Juarez fight because he struggled the first time(which he shouldnt have...)....why didnt he fight Soto, who had beaten Rocky before???.......MAB had been living of his victory over Morales for the last 3 years....

He didn't get dominated by Marquez. That's just crazy. And we can go back and forth with this. It's never going to end, because you actually hate one of the guys we're talking about. So, we'll agree to disagree.

[Parody]

jesus chavez was juch more dangerous than juarez and has acieved more.....

Mraquez pretty much dominated Barrera so i dont see how he gets credit for that.....

Morales wanted JMM in 2004...when Marquez was with TopRank...its not his fault Marquez didnt take the fight...

Morales' losses to Pacquiao were pretty much cus he was shot, he shouldve retired after losing to Raheem.....and he still shouldve gotten the decision vs David Diaz in his last fight......


MAB only get credit for the Juarez fight because he struggled the first time(which he shouldnt have...)....why didnt he fight Soto, who had beaten Rocky before???.......MAB had been living of his victory over Morales for the last 3 years....

Marquez did'nt dominate Barrera, I think he won 7 Rounds max and im a JMM fan here, real pleasure to watch the Marquez brothers .

[brently1979]

Then.. CHAVEZ would still be beter than Morales. Furthermore.. Barrera DID lost twice to Manny, but so did Morales. He beat him once.. which you can hang your hat on if you'd like.. But that's taken out by the fact that BARRERA beat Morales. The Jones fights are something you CAN bring up.. if you'd like. Morales also, got his undefeated record BROKEN by Barrera, AND finished off his career with FOUR straight losses. Not to take anything away from Morales. But, you're holding his PERSONALITY against Barrera, and that's unfair. Keep in mind, Morales NEVER came close to fighting a guy like Juarez or Marquez. Two younger(both, in terms of boxing years), hungier Mexican fighters.

But, you're entitled to your opinion.

Morales went out the way he came in and that was fighting. Erik fought to the very end, Barrera didn't in his last fight.

[number6]

Barrera's win over NAZ was greater, because NAZ came in undefeated, put the lower weightclasses back on the map, and brought that monstrous power, he simply had that aura of invincibility coming in against MAB. mab was also the underdog in his fight against NAZ

PAC already had his two losses, and showed weakness in his game against juanita prior to facing erika. Contrary to what someone already posted, it was actually PAC that was the underdog in his first fight w/ em

I agree with this post especially the bold parts.

[-Hyperion-]

He didn't get dominated by Marquez. That's just crazy. And we can go back and forth with this. It's never going to end, because you actually hate one of the guys we're talking about. So, we'll agree to disagree.

most people had it 117-111 Marquez(i did too) thats a domination if you ask me....

please youre only giving me **** cus i humiliated you when you were pretty much saying pure bs about hopkins and jones......you want me to teach you more???

[THe TRiNiTY]

most people had it 117-111 Marquez(i did too) thats a domination if you ask me....

please youre only giving me **** cus i humiliated you when you were pretty much saying pure bs about hopkins and jones......you want me to teach you more???

Excuse me? You can't teach me ****. Trust me.

As far as Jones and Hopkins.. I'm concerned with them, because we aren't talking about them, are we? Don't change a subject, to try and win an argument. Try and ACT mature, atleast.

117-111 is not what MOST people had it.. Or would you like me to start a poll about if they think he was DOMINATED by him.. and see who REALLY gets humiliated?

I've actually had NO problem with you.. until you've said something about thinking you're better or smarter than me. Now, I've lost a lot of respect for you. I actually tried ending this pointless bull****, and you had to go and show your age. It's pathetic. (For the record, I didn't even remember talking about Jones/Hopkins with you, so it's obviously not the reason for this conversation. You've thought about it more than me, sadly enough)

Go, run along and grow up now.

[-Hyperion-]

Excuse me? You can't teach me ****. Trust me.

As far as Jones and Hopkins.. I'm concerned with them, because we aren't talking about them, are we? Don't change a subject, to try and win an argument. Try and ACT mature, atleast.

117-111 is not what MOST people had it.. Or would you like me to start a poll about if they think he was DOMINATED by him.. and see who REALLY gets humiliated?

I've actually had NO problem with you.. until you've said something about thinking you're better or smarter than me. Now, I've lost a lot of respect for you. I actually tried ending this pointless bull****, and you had to go and show your age. It's pathetic. (For the record, I didn't even remember talking about Jones/Hopkins with you, so it's obviously not the reason for this conversation. You've thought about it more than me, sadly enough)

Go, run along and grow up now.

#1 look at the press scorecards.....

#2 i had made it very clear that i said warrior not best fighter and i never hated on anyone, i was just responding to your post that juarez was a dangerous fighter...and you were questioning morales' opposition so i did the same with MAB.....so you were pretty much the first one who started questioning my opinion as bad and then started playing the mature card ....

#3 yeah i remember you running away of our conversation about Hopkins-Jones too because you judge fighters based on their last few fights and not analising their careers properly...which is pretty much what happend here...and for someone talking about being mature, you certainly werent that when you went out of your way to discredit jones in every thread about him...


so yeah, **** off...i dont care what you think if you had given good reasons i would have no problem with you....

[THe TRiNiTY]

#1 look at the press scorecards.....

#2 i had made it very clear that i said warrior not best fighter and i never hated on anyone, i was just responding to your post that juarez was a dangerous fighter...and you were questioning morales' opposition so i did the same with MAB.....so you were pretty much the first one who started questioning my opinion as bad and then started playing the mature card ....

#3 yeah i remember you running away of our conversation about Hopkins-Jones too because you judge fighters based on their last few fights and not analising their careers properly...which is pretty much what happend here...and for someone talking about being mature, you certainly werent that when you went out of your way to discredit jones in every thread about him...


so yeah, **** off...i dont care what you think if you had given good reasons i would have no problem with you....

You see what hatred does for people? You actually are telling me to "**** off" and you don't even know me. Just because you HATE someone you don't even KNOW. That's how sad it is. You need to get that hate out of your heart, son.. It'll kill you.

For the record.. I give Jones a lot of credit. NUMEROUS wightclasses, with titles in most. Beat John Ruiz for the HEAVYWEIGHT title, after starting out in Middleweight. Had DESERVED wins over Hopkins and Toney.. giving both their TRUE losses. Stayed essentially undefeated until he started fading, and was an incredibly gifted athlete. When did I EVER deny any of this?

Never said your opinion was bad either.. I said I disagreed. You are the one who got SOOOOO defensive over another man that you most likely don't know.

But, keep acting the way you are. It helps you seem more correct.

[We want Floyd]

Morales was a 3:1 underdog......according to merchant...

LMFAO, "according to Merchant". Umm, Merchant is one person, an individual just like you and I. The only oddsmaker I pay attention to are the Vegas oddsmakers, and they had Erika as the odds on favorite! If I wasn't such a big PAC fan I would've put some money on Erika to win that night.

[Roque_sevilla]

Barrera Hamed!!!!!!!that Was Awesome