Mayweather: "Hatton is a C Class Fighter"

[Easton Assassin]

this was a hell of a come back, i must say, now go home or if you're already at home and buy their career dvd set and then come back with a hint of new knowledge, and then try posting to me again. in the mean time, keep crying, i'm sure somebody will care eventually, somebody will.

Lol i don't need to. I watched jones fight an endless string of firemen and a neverending line of inexperienced journeymen(being kind).


Then i watched Hopkins fight the Hakkars,Joppys, Allens, and every other bum he could dredge up between beating has been welterweights with name recognition to become an ATG.

And i have spent the last five years watching Floyds fake ass proclaim greatness off of victoies over the Balomir, Busseles,Gatti,Judah,N'dou, Mitchell,Corely-Yeah he is an ATG.

Get a ***in clue man.

I actually watched greats fight live- i know what the *** greatness looks like. One day when your nuts drop and you have been in the world awhile maybe you will be able to recognize it aswell!

[ThaHorseman]

Lol i don't need to. I watched jones fight an endless string of firemen and a neverending line of inexperienced journeymen(being kind).


Then i watched Hopkins fight the Hakkars,Joppys, Allens, and every other bum he could dredge up between beating has been welterweights with name recognition to become an ATG.

And i have spent the last five years watching Floyds fake ass proclaim greatness off of victoies over the Balomir, Busseles,Gatti,Judah,N'dou, Mitchell,Corely-Yeah he is an ATG.

Get a ***in clue man.

I actually watched greats fight live- i know what the *** greatness looks like. One day when your nuts drop and you have been in the world awhile maybe you will be able to recognize it aswell!

Please explain to us what greatness is wise one. I'm dying to know what constitutues greatness since the 3 of the best fighters of the past 20 years don't meet the standard.

[Ray*]

Please explain to us what greatness is wise one. I'm dying to know what constitutues greatness since the 3 of the best fighters of the past 20 years don't meet the standard.

I dont understand what this guys want? I did a thread once called "Who did roy jones junior ever avoid" and no-one could ever come up with one single name, They all kept saying darius michesllllllki or something like that but no-one could actually put a case forward.


People like to jump on a bandwagon and thats what most do instead of actually analysing the whole situation.

[Easton Assassin]

Please explain to us what greatness is wise one. I'm dying to know what constitutues greatness since the 3 of the best fighters of the past 20 years don't meet the standard.

Well since you ask, and these are fighters i have watched live.


Ali, Holmes, Hagler, Hearns,Chavez, Leonard, and a bunch more that were on a whole nother level to Jones, Hopkins, and Mayweather.

Yes, I'm that old, and yes, there is no question that the true greats are tested by other greats. Trial by fire is the only way to determine greatness. You can destroy every bum on the planet and greatness still will elude you, but when you face men who are as great then and only then can a fighter rise above mediocrity.

For instance.

What is Ali without Frazier, Norton, Foreman.

What is Leonard, without Hearns,Benetez, and Hagler

Or Hagler without Roldan, antufirmo(spelling), Leonard and Hearns?

Or Holmes without the multitude of guys(real guys) he overcame?


Where are the great names of Hopkins, Mayweather, And Jones?

Where are the mythical Matchups that made the legends?

simple-they don't exist in careers that span decade between them. Why is that genius?

Because there were no tests? because the money wasn't right? because their ******* were bleeding?

You wanna live in a fantasy where these guys define greatness? good, great, live there, but don't expect people that were around to see REAL greatness bow down to that bull****!

[Ray*]

Well since you ask, and these are fighters i have watched live.


Ali, Holmes, Hagler, Hearns,Chavez, Leonard, and a bunch more that were on a whole nother level to Jones, Hopkins, and Mayweather.

Yes, I'm that old, and yes, there is no question that the true greats are tested by other greats. Trial by fire is the only way to determine greatness. You can destroy every bum on the planet and greatness still will elude you, but when you face men who are as great then and only then can a fighter rise above mediocrity.

For instance.

What is Ali without Frazier, Norton, Foreman.

What is Leonard, without Hearns,Benetez, and Hagler

Or Hagler without Roldan, antufirmo(spelling), Leonard and Hearns?

Or Holmes without the multitude of guys(real guys) he overcame?


Where are the great names of Hopkins, Mayweather, And Jones?

Where are the mythical Matchups that made the legends?

simple-they don't exist in careers that span decade between them. Why is that genius?

Because there were no tests? because the money wasn't right? because their ******* were bleeding?

You wanna live in a fantasy where these guys define greatness? good, great, live there, but don't expect people that were around to see REAL greatness bow down to that bull****!

Mate where are the Names? Ali was lucky to have people like frazier..norton..foreman ..Leonard..had people like Hagler,Duran and hearns..But where are the great fighters in this era? Those that could give people like Roy jones or b hop and Mayweather a great fight..It takes two to tango

[Wiley Hyena]

Well since you ask, and these are fighters i have watched live.


Ali, Holmes, Hagler, Hearns,Chavez, Leonard, and a bunch more that were on a whole nother level to Jones, Hopkins, and Mayweather.

Yes, I'm that old, and yes, there is no question that the true greats are tested by other greats. Trial by fire is the only way to determine greatness. You can destroy every bum on the planet and greatness still will elude you, but when you face men who are as great then and only then can a fighter rise above mediocrity.

For instance.

What is Ali without Frazier, Norton, Foreman.

What is Leonard, without Hearns,Benetez, and Hagler

Or Hagler without Roldan, antufirmo(spelling), Leonard and Hearns?

Or Holmes without the multitude of guys(real guys) he overcame?


Where are the great names of Hopkins, Mayweather, And Jones?

Where are the mythical Matchups that made the legends?

simple-they don't exist in careers that span decade between them. Why is that genius?

Because there were no tests? because the money wasn't right? because their ******* were bleeding?

You wanna live in a fantasy where these guys define greatness? good, great, live there, but don't expect people that were around to see REAL greatness bow down to that bull****!

It's called business first and boxing second. Boxing has been afflicted with the businessmen ever since Tyson figured out he could make millions fighting tomato cans. Easton's right. And, I would throw in Duran (as a true great) for good measure.

[Easton Assassin]

It's called business first and boxing second. Boxing has been afflicted with the businessmen ever since Tyson figured out he could make millions fighting tomato cans. Easton's right. And, I would throw in Duran (as a true great) for good measure.

Agreed! Duran was a true great aswell.

I will concede one thing to Jones, Hopkins, and Mayweather. they were all great- great businessmen!

As fithers the most they can muster is Hof careers in the case of Jones and Hopkins. Mayweather will prolly be HOF aswell, but all three are houses built upon the sand- none have resumes befitting their status in the eyes of the so called experts.

Boxing is like any other business. If there are no greats to perpetuate the sport-promoters and those that gain financially from it will create greatness- or percieved greatness atleast.

Jones, Hopkins, and Mayweather are all products of that system. The promoters who made gazillions proclaiming these guys greatness did so to line thier pockets- thats it.

It is up to the TRUE FAN to discern what defines greatness. When we as fans buy into the hype machines financed by men that only care about the wealth and power it generates for them, legends are born for no other reason than it is necessary to keep the money train rolling.

If you can't see that, I can see why the so called "best fighters of the last 20 years" are your heroes.

Never doubt that your heroes are no more than oppoutunists and slight of hand men taking your hard earned money to the bank. Go back and watch the TRUE GREATS. Study them-then compare these so called modern day greats and it should become very apparant how you have been cheated!

[Easton Assassin]

Mate where are the Names? Ali was lucky to have people like frazier..norton..foreman ..Leonard..had people like Hagler,Duran and hearns..But where are the great fighters in this era? Those that could give people like Roy jones or b hop and Mayweather a great fight..It takes two to tango

That may be, but that said, it solidifies my case even further.

How can Jones, Hopkins, and Mayweather be ATG when they have never fought another ATG by which we could judge their real ability?

That said, the best we can do is guess, but we don't have to guess about the true greats do we? no, they proved their greatness.

Saying Hopkins, Jones and Mayweather don't have the competition to show their greatness is absurd when sooo many potential fights were left on the table.

no-these men cared about one thing only-the money. That is obvious to anyone who witnessed their reigns.

Also, how coincidental is it that that the sport has went into the ****ter under their reigns? why is that? ask yourself why three ATG fighters lead the charge into oblivion for the sport that once held the highest of respect?

These guy systematically destroyed the sport you profess to love and somehow you defend them? they got rich destroying bums and turning off the fanbase with their constant whineing about money and their greatness.

jesus, wake up guys. If you love this sport, then atleast be a student of it!

[squealpiggy]

I just wish that Mayweather would add to his currently limited repetoir of insults. If I hear him say "creme de la creme" one more time I might just get in the ring and fight him myself.

[AntonTheMeh]

yeah hatton is a c class fighter granted floyd is an idiot so he probably doesn't know his abc's.