Are retired or dead are overrated in general?

[Burning Desire]

That can work both ways aswell look at Larry Holmes he was very underrated when he was fighting and now he has retired he is finally getting the recognition he deserves.

[St@rscreem]

Like someone else said, I agree 100% the theory behind your post, and I've brought the same question up to a lot of people I know, but Tupac, Pele and Hendrix are HORRIBLE examples with which to base your argument off of. Each one of them is easily 100% deserving of the lengendary status that they picked up.

[tredh]

Like someone else said, I agree 100% the theory behind your post, and I've brought the same question up to a lot of people I know, but Tupac, Pele and Hendrix are HORRIBLE examples with which to base your argument off of. Each one of them is easily 100% deserving of the lengendary status that they picked up.

I concur with this post especially the bold people. I don't even like rock and roll or soccer.

[eazy_mas]

When the hell did pele die and howcome nobody told me about it????

it either dead or RETIRED

As father time continue to move, knowledge from the past will become obsolute and with that new ideas, tools, knowledge that can help boxers will be discovered. And the technologies of today that past greats didnt have can greatly help boxers of today. And boxers of today can simply look at archive video and study them and improve on them. There's no other way but to go forward.

so technically saying that today boxers are better because they have the knowledge of past boxer as well as mixed into there own.

i agree with your theory... but you picked the worst examples possible
(except arguably van gogh)
how is 2pac overratted? (you must not know about his genre)

how is pele overated? you say maradonna was better but they played in different era's.... either way he's top 3 all time...

and you said retired also... last time i checked maradonna is retired aswell!!!

and jimi hendrix? well i won't even bother...

Van Gogh when he was living , lived poor and nobody gave a **** about him intell he was dead.

2pac was a good rapper not my style but his sales of record became better after he was dead. people still think he was alive because of his album releases

I not saying that the people in the past are bad but people in the present are constantly compared with the people in the past. They get discredit alot even though they accomplished more

[eazy_mas]

That can work both ways aswell look at Larry Holmes he was very underrated when he was fighting and now he has retired he is finally getting the recognition he deserves.

For me Larry Holmes is the best HW ever in terms of boxing style and ability but Ali is consider to be GOAT because mostly of the things that he did outside boxing which help some limelight into the sport.

Same with Oscar DHL singing career and looks made more fan into the sport made him bigger than he is. Similar to Beckham, Mayweather tried to do it with Dancing with the Stars but failed as well as Tarver and Vargas.

[Burning Desire]

For me Larry Holmes is the best HW ever in terms of boxing style and ability but Ali is consider to be GOAT because mostly of the things that he did outside boxing which help some limelight into the sport.

Same with Oscar DHL singing career and looks made more fan into the sport made him bigger than he is. Similar to Beckham, Mayweather tried to do it with Dancing with the Stars but failed as well as Tarver and Vargas.

Totally agree good post.

[kayjay]

I remember what death did to Kurt Cobain in '94. It made him a star.

[eazy_mas]

I remember what death did to Kurt Cobain in '94. It made him a star.

if Alex Rose died then he was GOAT

Gun N Roses was the consider to be the best rising rock start not star but THE STAR that could be like Rolling Stones and the Beatles. But you know some internal problem in the band.

Kurt Cobain was okay with his Nirvana band but after he was overdose dead he became a legend.

usally people feel taboo subject to question someone's legacy in something

[rambov]

Diego Maradona is in no way shape or form better than Pele.

Both are still alive by the way. Diego is a retired coke head living in Cuba.

[Xyei]

if Alex Rose died then he was GOAT

Gun N Roses was the consider to be the best rising rock start not star but THE STAR that could be like Rolling Stones and the Beatles. But you know some internal problem in the band.

Kurt Cobain was okay with his Nirvana band but after he was overdose dead he became a legend.

usally people feel taboo subject to question someone's legacy in something

Cobain died from a gunshot wound to the head not an overdose. He did have an overdose before he died but that's not what killed him.