Why do people INSIST that MOSLEY still has good STAMINA????

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  • dino
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    #11
    Mosley has never had the best stamnia, in fights were guys are hitting him back, remember FOREST/De La Hoya fights?

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      #12
      Originally posted by Kball15
      ... the fac that he faded badly???

      he was soooo tired. after every punch he had to take a DEEP breath and then clinch. Hook and Clinch.

      He was VERY tired and that wasnt NEARLY as grueling a figtht as this one is going to be.
      WHAT??? First of all, do you know what FADED BADLY is?

      Secondly, that isn't at all the case. That fight was "high speed chess" as the HBO team put it. A highly active energetic fight between two speedsters.

      Mosley kept ACTIVE and ACCURATE until the final bell.

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        lol did you even watch the fight???????mosley swept the last few rounds..even knocked collazo down.....

        if anything, you should use the first vargas fight to say this.....and it wouldnt even be entirely true...shane was tired but when he sensed vargas's problems with his eye...he got his second wind and pumelled him...

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          #14
          Merchant: "..But he isn't beating Collazo with experience, he's just outfighting him."

          Steward: "His experience, his energy level, his speed, everything that a young fighter should have. And Collazo is fast himself.. But Shane is beating him with the things a young fighter should have."

          ^At which point Mosley DROPS Collazo to the canvass with 4 seconds left in the 11th round.

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            #15
            Originally posted by Addison
            WHAT??? First of all, do you know what FADED BADLY is?

            Secondly, that isn't at all the case. That fight was "high speed chess" as the HBO team put it. A highly active energetic fight between two speedsters.

            Mosley kept ACTIVE and ACCURATE until the final bell.
            im not saying it was an active fight cause it was. it was a pretty good fight.

            But Its not gonne be even remotely close to the activily level of this COTTO fight.

            And Cotto applies relentless pressure, Collazo just applies pressure. Cotto lets his hands go, Collazo doesnt and didnt.

            He faded very badly i though. but he ****** it up and kept fighting cause he's a champ. He's probably not gonna be able to do that very well in the late rounds against Cotto.

            And im not even saying Mosleys not gonna win cause he could if he gets an early lead OR ends it early, both of which are possible. but down the stretch i really think he is gonna struggle badly.

            And again, i thought he did fade pretty badly against collazo late. His legs seemed a little shaky at times and he definetly wasnt bouncing around like he was early. not at all. he tried everything he could to get into some clinches at times.

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              #16
              Originally posted by dino
              Mosley has never had the best stamnia, in fights were guys are hitting him back, remember FOREST/De La Hoya fights?
              yea exactly. in the last round of DLH 1 i remember him huffing and puffing and avoiding action to get a breather and everything. THAT WAS 7 YEARS AGO, and DLH didnt apply the body attack that Cotto will.

              Mosley is going fade badly down the stretch and get all clinchy and out breath down the stretch, im 99% sure of it

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                #17
                Originally posted by dino
                Mosley has never had the best stamnia, in fights were guys are hitting him back, remember FOREST/De La Hoya fights?
                lol.......if anything shane did great in the last part of the first fight vs forrest....in the second forrest adjusted to what mosley did in the first few rounds....and a lot of people though mosley won the fight....


                mosley outasted oscar to beat him in the first time and while i think oscar won the second fight, it was the last part of the fight in which mosley made it closer....

                go watch boxing once in a while...

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Kball15
                  im not saying it was an active fight cause it was. it was a pretty good fight.

                  But Its not gonne be even remotely close to the activily level of this COTTO fight.

                  And Cotto applies relentless pressure, Collazo just applies pressure. Cotto lets his hands go, Collazo doesnt and didnt.

                  He faded very badly i though. but he ****** it up and kept fighting cause he's a champ. He's probably not gonna be able to do that very well in the late rounds against Cotto.

                  And im not even saying Mosleys not gonna win cause he could if he gets an early lead OR ends it early, both of which are possible. but down the stretch i really think he is gonna struggle badly.

                  And again, i thought he did fade pretty badly against collazo late. His legs seemed a little shaky at times and he definetly wasnt bouncing around like he was early. not at all. he tried everything he could to get into some clinches at times.
                  HaHa.. OK, sure.

                  Have you watched Cotto fight??? He spends a great deal of time pacing himself. He's very relaxed. Miguel lunges in with a flurry and then backs out again. This is a MISCONCEPTION. Cotto is not a 36 minute pressure fighter by any stretch of the imagination. He fights in consistant bursts. But there are extended periods where Cotto catches his own breath and allows himself to reset.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Kball15
                    yea exactly. in the last round of DLH 1 i remember him huffing and puffing and avoiding action to get a breather and everything. THAT WAS 7 YEARS AGO, and DLH didnt apply the body attack that Cotto will.

                    Mosley is going fade badly down the stretch and get all clinchy and out breath down the stretch, im 99% sure of it
                    lol kball, youre looking like a fool right here....mosley won because he OUTLASTED Oscar...

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by -Hyperion-
                      lol.......if anything shane did great in the last part of the first fight vs forrest....in the second forrest adjusted to what mosley did in the first few rounds....and a lot of people though mosley won the fight....


                      mosley outasted oscar to beat him in the first time and while i think oscar won the second fight, it was the last part of the fight in which mosley made it closer....

                      go watch boxing once in a while...
                      it doesnt matter who was winning the rounds, the point is he was fading and was exhausted. 7 YEARS AGO!!!

                      In a fight that will be just as taxing as tommorows. No way in hell he can do that tommorow.

                      But MOsley is a fighter, and real champ, when he gets tired he sucks it up and fights. But u can only do that for so long. Its gonna catch up to him here.

                      He's not gonna win any of the late rounds, if it gets that far cause either guy could win before then.

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