OK Lets Talk POUND-FOR-POUND and what it means

[!! Mr. Soprano]

This is my interpretation of the P4P.. and I'm open to any opinions...

But IMO, a p4p means that if all fighters were the same weight/size, who wins and of course we place people on the P4P based on fighter's recent performances.

Now I don't see neither Hopkins, nor Wright beating Calzaghe (as these fights are very possible) so why do so many of you refuse putting Calzaghe over those two.

We all have somewhat biased lists, so here is mine (from another thread)
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I must admit, it's very hard to arrange the 6-10 right now.. a lot of these guys are great fighters..

I imagine there will still be some big changes as we get closer to the year-end (PBF / Hitman, Cotto/Mosley)

I have also dropped Wright from my list as he has been less than impressive for me lately. He is having weight issues and is fighting those bigger guys who are not making him look good (Hopkins, Taylor) He is 1-1-1 in his last 3 fights and I think he should have stayed at 154, where he would have dominated and not chase the middleweights and up. At MW-LHW I just see too many guys beating him.. But like I said..I don't think he can make 154 anymore and he will not be successful at his current weight

The reason I rate Calzaghe over Pacquiao is that I feel Calzaghe's skills are far more superior to Pac's. Pac is effective yet limited. He did beat up the two Mexican best, but as we have learned, they did age overnight after all the trilogies and the wars they have been to.

1 - Mayweather
2 - Calzaghe
3 - Pacquiao
4 - J.M.Marquez
5 - Hopkins
6 - Vazquez
7 - Pavlik
8 - R. Marquez
9 - Hatton
10- Cotto

[Duke McKenzie]

Interesting topic against a fun idea that's taken far too seriously in general on these boards.

I like your list, but I wouldn't have Pavlik on there. I like the guy a LOT, but his skills are extremely limited.

[!! Mr. Soprano]

Interesting topic against a fun idea that's taken far too seriously in general on these boards.

I like your list, but I wouldn't have Pavlik on there. I like the guy a LOT, but his skills are extremely limited.

I agree about Pavlik...

only reason he is on my list is that I took Wright off for being 1-1-1 and Pavlik (as limited as he is) did knock out everyone in his path, even as an underdog.

[Duke McKenzie]

Now I've thought about it, you do have a point.

[Rudyo]

That is a very nice list, agree with 90% of it.

[Run]

To me it's simple.

I make everyone lighter than a heavyweight weigh the same in my mind. Then compare the level of opposition they faced first. Then assess the intangibles they have as fighters.



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[Tuggers1986]

Pound-for-pound is the term used in boxing, mixed martial arts and other combat sports to describe a fighter's value in relation to fighters of different weight classes.

It is often said to have been created to describe world Welterweight and Middleweight champion Sugar Ray Robinson. Robinson is one of the most accomplished fighter of the modern era, but his supporters realized that, while he could beat anyone in his own class, as a Middleweight he would not be able to beat a top Heavyweight. Hence, Robinson was called the pound-for-pound best without being expected to beat much larger fighters, under the belief that he as a Middleweight was still a better quality fighter than any fighter fighting at heavier or lighter weights than him.

[!! Mr. Soprano]

To me it's simple.

I make everyone lighter than a heavyweight weigh the same in my mind. Then compare the level of opposition they faced first. Then assess the intangibles they have as fighters.

Pound-for-pound is the term used in boxing, mixed martial arts and other combat sports to describe a fighter's value in relation to fighters of different weight classes.

It is often said to have been created to describe world Welterweight and Middleweight champion Sugar Ray Robinson. Robinson is one of the most accomplished fighter of the modern era, but his supporters realized that, while he could beat anyone in his own class, as a Middleweight he would not be able to beat a top Heavyweight. Hence, Robinson was called the pound-for-pound best without being expected to beat much larger fighters, under the belief that he as a Middleweight was still a better quality fighter than any fighter fighting at heavier or lighter weights than him.

Granted.. Than why you, knives, rate Wright over Calzaghe in your P4P?

Do you think he can beat him today? No.
Has his recent accomplishments been greater? No.

I just want to know how the rest of us think when it come to p4p

[!!Captain]

To me it's simple.

I make everyone lighter than a heavyweight weigh the same in my mind. Then compare the level of opposition they faced first. Then assess the intangibles they have as fighters.

That's about the same way I think of it. Where do you have Mayweather on your list then? In this case, Calzaghe should be (and is for me) rated above Mayweather.

[!! Mr. Soprano]

That's about the same way I think of it. Where do you have Mayweather on your list then? In this case, Calzaghe should be (and is for me) rated above Mayweather.

SOrry to jump the gun... Knives posted his p4p in another thread.. that's why I asked how do people calculate their rankings

1. Floyd Mayweather
2. Manny Pacquiao
3. Bernard Hopkins
4. Winky Wright
5. Juan Manuel Marquez
6. Joe Calzaghe
7. Rafael Marquez
8. Shane Mosley
9. Ricky Hatton
10. Miguel Cotto