I was MUCH less impressed than Lamps, Max and the ****

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

How many guys has Mayweather fought that were on the P4P list at the time of the fight? Kessler is a much tougher fight than anything Mayweather has taken on in the last five years.

Zab Judah. ...#10?
Diego Corrales....#6
Ricky Hatton...# 8?

Thanks for the softball.

[karlobarlo]

All the pricks saying that Calzaghe still has to prove himself are ****ing idiots and are a disgrace to rational boxing fans. I had it three rounds to Joe but didnt think he outclassed Kessler. But to say that he fought an overrated Kessler is a ****ing joke. No suprise that the two wankers who were saying that have PBF and Hopkins on their avatars! IDIOTS!!!!!!!!!

[-Hyperion-]

HAHA, thanks to my man Joe Calslappy , now im 100k e-points richer

And Dios i like you but STFU about non ameican fighters....your statement about this fight being for regional championshp was flat out ******...

[Brandish]

Calzaghe has not had as many big fights as he should have but this is not his fault. Hatton went to America for exposure not to fight the best. There is no overwhelming reason for fights to take place in America and the accusation that British or European fighters stay at home too often can just as easily be levelled at American's but oddly enough you don't hear it very often.

I think Mayweather will win.

floyd and oscar just made 134 million how much did cal-slappy and kessler just make

[El Jesus]

I really have trouble understanding the reasoning behind deminishing the OBVIOUS skills a fighter displays in the ring by criticizing his record. If Pernell Whitaker never destroyed Chavez, never fought McGirt, never humiliated Azumah Nelson, and never put on a clinic against Jose Louis Ramirez, he would STILL be Pernell Whitaker. He would STILL be one of the greatest defensive fighters ever, and he would STILL be an ATG fight.

The same goes for Mikkel Kessler. It DOESNT matter who he has fought, he has skills. Watch his fights, they are there for everyone to see. You don't need to pick apart his record and why he hasn't fought anyone. 70% of you had not even heard of Kessler before talks about Calzaghe came about. Being good, and unknown is not exactly a recipe to getting the big name fight.

Same goes for Calzaghe. If Roy Jones anounced he was fighting Calzaghe back when he was at 168, most of you would have trashed Roy Jones for fighting an over protected paper champion (he wasn't even champ yet). Yet the same people are today criticizing Calzaghe for not having the exposure or the name to Make the big fights feasible earlier in his career.

James Toney, the only fighter that would realistically take a fight against Calzaghe back when Calzaghe was an up and coming champion was fighting at Cruiserweight at the time Calzaghe won his title. CRUISERWEIGHT.

Why didn't he fight with Bernard? Bernard was as big a Nobody as Calzaghe was in 1997. The man was a 3-1 underdog against a Felix Trinidad in 2001, his first true mainstream exposure. He was perfectly happy defending his alphabet belt and calling out Roy Jones.

Do you know how long Roy Jones Stayed at 168? Two fights... in 1996, a year before the beginning of Calzaghes 1997 title reign. If you try to tell me Calzaghe had a chance in hell of getting a fight with Roy Jones, Id refer you to a doctor.

Calzaghe is a GREAT fighter, who until recently, has not had the name to get big fights with big name fighters, thats it. He wasn't over protected, he wasn't ducking fighters, he was simply lacking in opportunities. Frank Warren or the general American opinion of British boxing didn't help matters either.

this post sums it up perfectly without hating

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

im not in love with joe, but im also not going to sit here and discredit him with a win over a man who held 2 legit belts in the division and he dominated him, stop being a hater and stop discredting these guys just for being european.

Did you read the post, Nancy?

Was Baldomir a beltholder?

[GrizzleBoy]

Originally Posted by shawn_
I really have trouble understanding the reasoning behind deminishing the OBVIOUS skills a fighter displays in the ring by criticizing his record. If Pernell Whitaker never destroyed Chavez, never fought McGirt, never humiliated Azumah Nelson, and never put on a clinic against Jose Louis Ramirez, he would STILL be Pernell Whitaker. He would STILL be one of the greatest defensive fighters ever, and he would STILL be an ATG fight.

The same goes for Mikkel Kessler. It DOESNT matter who he has fought, he has skills. Watch his fights, they are there for everyone to see. You don't need to pick apart his record and why he hasn't fought anyone. 70% of you had not even heard of Kessler before talks about Calzaghe came about. Being good, and unknown is not exactly a recipe to getting the big name fight.

Same goes for Calzaghe. If Roy Jones anounced he was fighting Calzaghe back when he was at 168, most of you would have trashed Roy Jones for fighting an over protected paper champion (he wasn't even champ yet). Yet the same people are today criticizing Calzaghe for not having the exposure or the name to Make the big fights feasible earlier in his career.

James Toney, the only fighter that would realistically take a fight against Calzaghe back when Calzaghe was an up and coming champion was fighting at Cruiserweight at the time Calzaghe won his title. CRUISERWEIGHT.

Why didn't he fight with Bernard? Bernard was as big a Nobody as Calzaghe was in 1997. The man was a 3-1 underdog against a Felix Trinidad in 2001, his first true mainstream exposure. He was perfectly happy defending his alphabet belt and calling out Roy Jones.

Do you know how long Roy Jones Stayed at 168? Two fights... in 1996, a year before the beginning of Calzaghes 1997 title reign. If you try to tell me Calzaghe had a chance in hell of getting a fight with Roy Jones, Id refer you to a doctor.

Calzaghe is a GREAT fighter, who until recently, has not had the name to get big fights with big name fighters, thats it. He wasn't over protected, he wasn't ducking fighters, he was simply lacking in opportunities. Frank Warren or the general American opinion of British boxing didn't help matters either.

QUOTED FOR TRUTH

I wonder how long this post will go ignored while the BS talk continues.

Anyone willing to step up?

[Wiley Hyena]

floyd and oscar just made 134 million how much did cal-slappy and kessler just make

50,000 seats filled..........

[pack04attack]

LOL B-Hop is no good huh. 2 guys that think B-Hop and Floyd are IDIOTS. Look what your writing before saying it buddy. You not gonna sit there and knock me on what I know and dont know cause I could school you all day pal. Take a look back at all my posts, I never said Calzaghe sucks. I said hes' not in the A class untill he beats 1 or 2 A Class fights. NO LACY DOES NOT COUNT. Got it?? Good...

[Mozza]

So.... Roy Jones fought Hopkins and Toney. Two guys who were p4p #1 at some point in their careers. Roy Jones fought Tarver. He went up to Heavyweight and fought Ruiz.

But he was ducking the Welsh slapper who beat Chris Eubank??

Thanks for that perspective.

And I asked YOU to rank those guys. So YOU are the one calling them 'greats'. I guess they aren't "so-called".

Your question was designed to prove a point so therefore you already have an opinion of them and it is pretty clear what that opinion is.

Calzaghe has chased big fights for years. These have not transpired due to a combination of factors none of which can be blamed on Joe. I expect when he beats Hopkins we will hear the fabled "past it" excuse roled out but it doesn't matter because it is now more than evident that anyone who refuses to give Calzaghe respect is either jealous, ****** or both.