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  • Azteca
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    The three kinds of pressure:

    Jesus Chavez - punches from everywhere. Wide punches. Slappy punches with the cuff of the glove but punches from everywhere. Non stop pressure. I've seen him fight in other bouts and he is much different vs. different styles. More of a pick and choose pressure fighter vs. most of his opponents. For example he fought Levander Johnson (god bless his soul) much different then the way he fought Mayweather. Sat down on his punches more.

    Castillo - breaks in the action type of pressure. He would press using intelligent footwork and inside counterpunching. Chavez-like pressure which broke you down with subtle inside uppercuts. Dirty fighter also who punched you on break, lowblowed. Very intelligent pressure fighter.

    DelaHoya - Pressure that stemmed from the jab. Intelligent footwork but not very fast. Only problem was, pressure isn't really in his tempermant. He is and has always been a jab and move type of fighter. More of an aggressive counterpuncher. Carried out this mission for 8 rounds but failed down the stretch. Punched on breaks and during clinches.

    Hatton brings different kind. Herky jerky and from all angles. Fast feet, headbutts, elbows, lowblows, forearms. Only problem is he is prone to swelling and cuts, while the 3 mentioned above are not for the most part. Also gets hit more then the 3 mentioned fighters above.

    Fair analysis, gentS?
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    #2
    Seems pretty on-point to me... but then again, I still don't have a ton of depth on any fighter in the sport, other than a select 10... and pretty much none of them are pressure fighters so...

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    • Welter_Skelter
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      #3
      Originally posted by Azteca
      Jesus Chavez - punches from everywhere. Wide punches. Slappy punches with the cuff of the glove but punches from everywhere. Non stop pressure. I've seen him fight in other bouts and he is much different vs. different styles. More of a pick and choose pressure fighter vs. most of his opponents. For example he fought Levander Johnson (god bless his soul) much different then the way he fought Mayweather. Sat down on his punches more.

      Castillo - breaks in the action type of pressure. He would press using intelligent footwork and inside counterpunching. Chavez-like pressure which broke you down with subtle inside uppercuts. Dirty fighter also who punched you on break, lowblowed. Very intelligent pressure fighter.

      DelaHoya - Pressure that stemmed from the jab. Intelligent footwork but not very fast. Only problem was, pressure isn't really in his tempermant. He is and has always been a jab and move type of fighter. More of an aggressive counterpuncher. Carried out this mission for 8 rounds but failed down the stretch. Punched on breaks and during clinches.

      Hatton brings different kind. Herky jerky and from all angles. Fast feet, headbutts, elbows, lowblows, forearms. Only problem is he is prone to swelling and cuts, while the 3 mentioned above are not for the most part. Also gets hit more then the 3 mentioned fighters above.

      Fair analysis, gentS?
      Shouldn't you be in bed????

      OK so My head says... Floyd Mayweather should cruise to an easy Victory.. Not quite Gatti.. I would Put Hatton somewhere between Baldomir and DLH..
      And as you mentioned Hatton has Fragile skin.. I can see him getting cut up real bad with Floyds fast and accurate punches..

      SO why do I have a Feeling in my GUT that everyone is going to be wrong..??

      Somehow I feel this fight is not going to be what people expect..

      Plus I gave Hatton ZERO chance when he fought Tszyu.. and he wasn't an Unknown to me.. But he surprised everyone except himself there didn't he?

      He has THAT same unshakable confidence.. He REALLY beleives he is going to win..
      And no matter what HIS fanboys say to the contrary.. Floyd is disturbed by this..

      Logicaly Hatton Has no chance... Neither did the '93 Canadiens.. Yet they found a way to win including 10 or so overtimes..

      Cant shake this feeling in my gut...

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        #4
        Originally posted by Welter_Skelter
        Shouldn't you be in bed????

        OK so My head says... Floyd Mayweather should cruise to an easy Victory.. Not quite Gatti.. I would Put Hatton somewhere between Baldomir and DLH..
        And as you mentioned Hatton has Fragile skin.. I can see him getting cut up real bad with Floyds fast and accurate punches..

        SO why do I have a Feeling in my GUT that everyone is going to be wrong..??

        Somehow I feel this fight is not going to be what people expect..

        Plus I gave Hatton ZERO chance when he fought Tszyu.. and he wasn't an Unknown to me.. But he surprised everyone except himself there didn't he?

        He has THAT same unshakable confidence.. He REALLY beleives he is going to win..
        And no matter what HIS fanboys say to the contrary.. Floyd is disturbed by this..

        Logicaly Hatton Has no chance... Neither did the '93 Canadiens.. Yet they found a way to win including 10 or so overtimes..

        Cant shake this feeling in my gut...
        I'm wired. Had about 4-5 cokes.

        Anyway I agree with you. Something is weird about this fight. Something just seems not right and out of the ordinary.

        I mean all the hype is normal. Hatton can bench press a horse. Hatton leg presses as much as WWE superstar Batista.

        but I mean usually you have opponents not really saying much about Mayweather. It's usually Mayweather dominating the interviews and talking all the trash. I mean, I dont even remember ZAB JUDAH talking trash.

        Hatton's confidence is unmistakenable.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Welter_Skelter
          Shouldn't you be in bed????

          OK so My head says... Floyd Mayweather should cruise to an easy Victory.. Not quite Gatti.. I would Put Hatton somewhere between Baldomir and DLH..
          And as you mentioned Hatton has Fragile skin.. I can see him getting cut up real bad with Floyds fast and accurate punches..

          SO why do I have a Feeling in my GUT that everyone is going to be wrong..??

          Somehow I feel this fight is not going to be what people expect..

          Plus I gave Hatton ZERO chance when he fought Tszyu.. and he wasn't an Unknown to me.. But he surprised everyone except himself there didn't he?

          He has THAT same unshakable confidence.. He REALLY beleives he is going to win..
          And no matter what HIS fanboys say to the contrary.. Floyd is disturbed by this..

          Logicaly Hatton Has no chance... Neither did the '93 Canadiens.. Yet they found a way to win including 10 or so overtimes..

          Cant shake this feeling in my gut...
          Carlos Baldomir had that too.

          Seriously though, I am not nearly as solid on this fight as I once was. I still think Floyd wins... but I think it's going to be a decisive victory either way. Either Mayweather wins big, or Hatton wins clearly.

          Yeah, I don't really like the feeling in my gut for this one.

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          • Azteca
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            #6
            Three kinds of pressure.........

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            • K-Nan
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              #7
              You said it: Three kinds of pressure. Three different ways he handled it. But the great equalizer in my mind is Hatton's ability to close that gap. Floyd will be moving and potshotting, but it's likely that Hatton will be right there with him. That's a little more pressure than those other guys could muster- it's more constant than just the occasional bashing on the ropes from those guys.

              That being said, Floyd will still win.

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              • Slotff
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                #8
                Originally posted by Welter_Skelter

                OK so My head says... Floyd Mayweather should cruise to an easy Victory.. Not quite Gatti.. I would Put Hatton somewhere between Baldomir and DLH..
                ...
                Thats quite the gap, Carlos got his ass whipped, and I felt DLH beat him.

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                • PeROxiDE
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                  #9
                  Hatton has the same "shock the world" attitude that he had before he fought KT, he honestly believes that if he gives his all and leaves everything in the ring, he will win. It is hard to break a mans confidence without scoring a KD early, and that is never going to happen. Mayweather will take some of the hardest shots hes ever going to feel on dec 8th, and if his chin is anything less than 100% granite, a new P4P king will be crowned.

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